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Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

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Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by bmw » Sat May 07, 2022 5:57 pm

Yeah, did anybody actually believe that?
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Taliban officials announced that women and girls would be expected to stay home, and if they were to venture out, to cover in all-encompassing loose clothing that only reveals their eyes – preferably, a burka.

The restrictions on women's movement and dress are the harshest that the Taliban have announced since they came to power in August. It suggested the increasing dominance of the group's hard-line leaders, who appear to be behind the extended ban on most women and girls attending secondary school.
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/07/10973825 ... rqa-decree

And here we are in the states pissing and moaning about so-called "abortion" rights when this is going on on the other side of the globe.



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by Bryce » Sat May 07, 2022 7:38 pm

The Biden administration gets duped again.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by Deleted User 9015 » Sat May 07, 2022 7:44 pm

Good point! We should have stayed there for 40 years. Then this wouldn't be an issue.

Or perhaps, we shouldn't have been there to begin with...



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by lidoshuffle » Sat May 07, 2022 7:57 pm

Neckbeard wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:44 pm
Good point! We should have stayed there for 40 years. Then this wouldn't be an issue.

Or perhaps, we shouldn't have been there to begin with...
So I have you down that you condone The Taliban's treatment of women and the blatant human rights violations they cast upon women under their jurisdiction...very good glad we cleared that up..



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Sat May 07, 2022 8:02 pm

Bryce wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:38 pm
The Biden administration gets duped again.
They also appear to recognize 'the sunk cost fallacy' and how to avoid it.



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by Bryce » Sat May 07, 2022 8:19 pm

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:02 pm
Bryce wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:38 pm
The Biden administration gets duped again.
They also appear to recognize 'the sunk cost fallacy' and how to avoid it.
:rollin :rollin :rollin

I'm assuming that was meant to be humorous?


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by Deleted User 9015 » Sat May 07, 2022 8:29 pm

lidoshuffle wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:57 pm
Neckbeard wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:44 pm
Good point! We should have stayed there for 40 years. Then this wouldn't be an issue.

Or perhaps, we shouldn't have been there to begin with...
So I have you down that you condone The Taliban's treatment of women and the blatant human rights violations they cast upon women under their jurisdiction...very good glad we cleared that up..
Not our responsibility and not why Monkey Boy pushed us into it.



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by bmw » Sun May 08, 2022 1:02 pm

Neckbeard wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:29 pm
lidoshuffle wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:57 pm
Neckbeard wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:44 pm
Good point! We should have stayed there for 40 years. Then this wouldn't be an issue.

Or perhaps, we shouldn't have been there to begin with...
So I have you down that you condone The Taliban's treatment of women and the blatant human rights violations they cast upon women under their jurisdiction...very good glad we cleared that up..
Not our responsibility and not why Monkey Boy pushed us into it.
Regardless of whose "responsibility" it is or "why" we went in there in the first place, the sad reality is that millions of women are losing the most basic of human rights as we speak. The fact that they live on the other side of the globe doesn't make them any less human.



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by Deleted User 9015 » Sun May 08, 2022 3:26 pm

bmw wrote:
Sun May 08, 2022 1:02 pm
Neckbeard wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:29 pm
lidoshuffle wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:57 pm
Neckbeard wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:44 pm
Good point! We should have stayed there for 40 years. Then this wouldn't be an issue.

Or perhaps, we shouldn't have been there to begin with...
So I have you down that you condone The Taliban's treatment of women and the blatant human rights violations they cast upon women under their jurisdiction...very good glad we cleared that up..
Not our responsibility and not why Monkey Boy pushed us into it.
Regardless of whose "responsibility" it is or "why" we went in there in the first place, the sad reality is that millions of women are losing the most basic of human rights as we speak. The fact that they live on the other side of the globe doesn't make them any less human.
I agree with everything you say here, except that they are losing basic human rights. They never really gained them.

They were enforced by an invading military with marginal success at best. But still, its not the role of the US or our military to reform cultures. If it were, look across Africa, the Middle East, even parts of South Asia. Women and queer people get it just as bad or worse. Hell, our soldiers were even told to not interfere with some of the more bizarre culturally accepted things such as bacha bazi where older Pashtun men molesting younger boys.



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Re: Remember when the Taliban promised to be more "moderate"?

Post by paul8539 » Fri May 13, 2022 7:16 pm

What they are doing IS moderate - to them. Now they just have to announce that they are going to burn all of the poppy fields to they can't deal drugs.



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