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Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

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Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by Matt » Thu May 05, 2022 10:23 am

Regarding Gerard Baker’s “GOP Leaders Remain Shackled to Donald Trump” (Free Expression, April 26): As a straight-line Republican voter for over 50 years, I can’t understand why the leaders and candidates of the party don’t grasp the concept that to the key voters in tight races, Donald Trump is simply too toxic to tolerate, even if you like his policies.

Tim O’Reilly

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This is what I've been saying for months...


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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by bmw » Thu May 05, 2022 12:14 pm

I think the verdict is out on this one. We'll have a much better idea after the midterms whether this is true or not.

Two key races:

-Ohio Senate. JD Vance came out of nowhere to win the nomination after the Trump endorsement. Gonna be a bitter race between him and Tim Ryan.

-Pennsylvania Senate. I know they haven't had their primaries yet, but Dr. Oz will be interesting to watch.



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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu May 05, 2022 5:20 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 12:14 pm
I think the verdict is out on this one. We'll have a much better idea after the midterms whether this is true or not.

Two key races:

-Ohio Senate. JD Vance came out of nowhere to win the nomination after the Trump endorsement. Gonna be a bitter race between him and Tim Ryan.

-Pennsylvania Senate. I know they haven't had their primaries yet, but Dr. Oz will be interesting to watch.
Hmmmm.
Democrat Carol Glanville defeated her Republican opponent in a special election Tuesday for a Michigan state House seat. Glanville won by 11 points, 51 percent to 40 percent, even though the district has been represented by Republicans for decades.

Of course, Republican Robert Regan was an exceptionally damaged candidate. He gained notoriety when video recently surfaced of him suggesting that he tells his daughters to “lie back and enjoy it” if “rape is inevitable.”

Regan claimed this was an analogy designed to warn against accepting the supposedly stolen 2020 election. But Republicans and Democrats alike roundly condemned him for it.

It’s certainly possible Regan would have won if he hadn’t made this hideous statement. Yet the swing in the district was nonetheless unexpectedly large, and what’s interesting about this race is how the Democrat ran it.

Glanville adopted an approach to politics similar to that of McMorrow. Regan’s right-wing extremism went far beyond those rape comments and even included suggestions that the coronavirus pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine (and of course Trump’s 2020 loss) were all hoaxes.

Glanville took all that on frontally. That’s hardly surprising by itself, but she also tried to weave it into a larger story about right-wing extremism and why it’s at odds with the values of most Michiganders.

“We showed that Republican extremism has no home in Michigan,” Glanville told me in an interview.

Importantly, Glanville went out of her way to articulate her own more inclusive values with conviction. She sought to turn the contest into a clash of values over what kind of society we want to live in.

As Glanville put it, Republicans are telling us their own story about “who we are.” Whether their rhetoric is anti-transgender, antiabortion, anti-education, or anti-democracy, Glanville said, the “thread” running through it all is “extremism.”

Which requires Democrats to respond with something big and meaningful about who they think we should be.

“Democrats need to tell their story,” Glanville told me, suggesting she could not have won without the Republican voters who responded positively to a Democrat who was forthright about what she believes.

“The big takeaway from all this is that people are tired of radicalism and conspiracy theories,” Glanville said. She paired this with bread-and-butter messaging about education, good jobs, infrastructure and climate concerns.


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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by Matt » Thu May 05, 2022 8:02 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 12:14 pm
I think the verdict is out on this one. We'll have a much better idea after the midterms whether this is true or not.

Two key races:

-Ohio Senate. JD Vance came out of nowhere to win the nomination after the Trump endorsement. Gonna be a bitter race between him and Tim Ryan.

-Pennsylvania Senate. I know they haven't had their primaries yet, but Dr. Oz will be interesting to watch.
Primaries don't tell us anything.


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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by Matt » Thu May 05, 2022 8:05 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 5:20 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 12:14 pm
I think the verdict is out on this one. We'll have a much better idea after the midterms whether this is true or not.

Two key races:

-Ohio Senate. JD Vance came out of nowhere to win the nomination after the Trump endorsement. Gonna be a bitter race between him and Tim Ryan.

-Pennsylvania Senate. I know they haven't had their primaries yet, but Dr. Oz will be interesting to watch.
Hmmmm.
Democrat Carol Glanville defeated her Republican opponent in a special election Tuesday for a Michigan state House seat. Glanville won by 11 points, 51 percent to 40 percent, even though the district has been represented by Republicans for decades.

Of course, Republican Robert Regan was an exceptionally damaged candidate. He gained notoriety when video recently surfaced of him suggesting that he tells his daughters to “lie back and enjoy it” if “rape is inevitable.”

Regan claimed this was an analogy designed to warn against accepting the supposedly stolen 2020 election. But Republicans and Democrats alike roundly condemned him for it.

It’s certainly possible Regan would have won if he hadn’t made this hideous statement. Yet the swing in the district was nonetheless unexpectedly large, and what’s interesting about this race is how the Democrat ran it.

Glanville adopted an approach to politics similar to that of McMorrow. Regan’s right-wing extremism went far beyond those rape comments and even included suggestions that the coronavirus pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine (and of course Trump’s 2020 loss) were all hoaxes.

Glanville took all that on frontally. That’s hardly surprising by itself, but she also tried to weave it into a larger story about right-wing extremism and why it’s at odds with the values of most Michiganders.

“We showed that Republican extremism has no home in Michigan,” Glanville told me in an interview.

Importantly, Glanville went out of her way to articulate her own more inclusive values with conviction. She sought to turn the contest into a clash of values over what kind of society we want to live in.

As Glanville put it, Republicans are telling us their own story about “who we are.” Whether their rhetoric is anti-transgender, antiabortion, anti-education, or anti-democracy, Glanville said, the “thread” running through it all is “extremism.”

Which requires Democrats to respond with something big and meaningful about who they think we should be.

“Democrats need to tell their story,” Glanville told me, suggesting she could not have won without the Republican voters who responded positively to a Democrat who was forthright about what she believes.

“The big takeaway from all this is that people are tired of radicalism and conspiracy theories,” Glanville said. She paired this with bread-and-butter messaging about education, good jobs, infrastructure and climate concerns.
This guy is to the right like the squad is to the left, but PLEASE, get false hope from this.


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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by bmw » Thu May 05, 2022 9:43 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 8:02 pm
Primaries don't tell us anything.
Re-read my post. I'm not talking about the primaries. I'm talking about the mid-terms. I'm saying it will be interesting to see how these 2 Trump-backed candidates perform in the general (assuming Oz gets the nod).



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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by Deleted User 15783 » Thu May 05, 2022 10:09 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 9:43 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 8:02 pm
Primaries don't tell us anything.
Re-read my post. I'm not talking about the primaries. I'm talking about the mid-terms ....
Reading is fundamental.



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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by FakeAndyStuart » Sun May 08, 2022 5:07 am

My punditry in red
bmw wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 12:14 pm
I think the verdict is out on this one. We'll have a much better idea after the midterms whether this is true or not.

Two key races:

-Ohio Senate. JD Vance came out of nowhere to win the nomination after the Trump endorsement. Gonna be a bitter race between him and Tim Ryan.

Vance "won" with 31 percent of the vote. And there is a BIG effort to encourage one of the losers to run as an independent. The endorsement gave JD Vance a little name recognition, that was about it. And the opportunity research on him is MINDBLOWING. This seat could flip.

-Pennsylvania Senate. I know they haven't had their primaries yet, but Dr. Oz will be interesting to watch.

There are not a lot of polls in Penn, but the most current one has Oz with 18% and McCormick with 16%, Undecided 40%. And McCormick has gone all "Trump is wrong" in his ads. This one should be interesting.



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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by bmw » Sun May 08, 2022 1:01 pm

Can't say I disagree with any of your punditry. A lot of Conservatives aren't particularly happy with either the Vance or Oz endorsements.



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Re: Succinct WSJ letter: Dump Trump

Post by FakeAndyStuart » Sun May 08, 2022 6:59 pm

bmw wrote:
Sun May 08, 2022 1:01 pm
Can't say I disagree with any of your punditry.
OMG, what am I doing wrong? :rollin

Seriously, watch the Ohio Gov race as well. Trump did not endorse (he's already cracked on DeWine and he is smart enough to know no matter who he picked he would lose) and the Trumpiest loser is questioning the results.

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Watch this guy start some shit.. maybe even run as an indy.

"The Trumpiest Loser"? Could be a new show on MSNBC



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