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And…another variant

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Re: And…another variant

Post by SoutheastMIViewer » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:25 am

Yet some how this will be the fault of a Unvaccinated Republican American claimed by the left since the variant once again comes from another country no where near the United States and not from an American.


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Re: And…another variant

Post by Rate This » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:04 am

SoutheastMIViewer wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:25 am
Yet some how this will be the fault of a Unvaccinated Republican American claimed by the left since the variant once again comes from another country no where near the United States and not from an American.
The rampant spread of it in the country and clogging of hospitals with the unvaccinated is undeniably substantially the fault of Republican Americans. They tend to resist and moan the most against the vaccines and refuse to get them despite their hospital stays being preventable in most cases if they had just gotten the damn shot. You know this. You simply choose to ignore it.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by km1125 » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm

Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by Matt » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:17 pm

km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
God, you are a dumb motherfucker.


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Re: And…another variant

Post by Rate This » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm

km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
If everyone were vaccinated you have a third the patients.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by km1125 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:41 am

Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
If everyone were vaccinated you have a third the patients.
Not true.

You need to check your math.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by Rate This » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:29 am

km1125 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:41 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
If everyone were vaccinated you have a third the patients.
Not true.

You need to check your math.
If 33% of patients are vaccinated now and the other 66% had been the rate would still be 33% or very very close to it, the vaccine works that well.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by Matt » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:51 am

Rate This wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:29 am
km1125 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:41 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
If everyone were vaccinated you have a third the patients.
Not true.

You need to check your math.
If 33% of patients are vaccinated now and the other 66% had been the rate would still be 33% or very very close to it, the vaccine works that well.
He's right, your math is way off - it would lead to a 50% reduction in hospitalizations assuming there is a linear correlation.


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Re: And…another variant

Post by km1125 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:00 am

If the hospitals were fully staffed, instead of them firing the unvaxxed, it probably wouldn't be an issue.

ALSO, if we actually TREATED people, especially early in their infection rather than just sending them home after a positive test, we probably would have 80% less in the hospitals anyways.

But no, we still are largely "go home until you can't breathe"!! And we're saving all the monoclonal antibodies for the overweight folks because they REALLY need it.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by Matt » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:51 am

km1125 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:00 am
If the hospitals were fully staffed, instead of them firing the unvaxxed, it probably wouldn't be an issue.

ALSO, if we actually TREATED people, especially early in their infection rather than just sending them home after a positive test, we probably would have 80% less in the hospitals anyways.

But no, we still are largely "go home until you can't breathe"!! And we're saving all the monoclonal antibodies for the overweight folks because they REALLY need it.
Treat them with what? There's a severe shortage of monoclonal antibodies.


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Re: And…another variant

Post by km1125 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:23 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:51 am
km1125 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:00 am
If the hospitals were fully staffed, instead of them firing the unvaxxed, it probably wouldn't be an issue.

ALSO, if we actually TREATED people, especially early in their infection rather than just sending them home after a positive test, we probably would have 80% less in the hospitals anyways.

But no, we still are largely "go home until you can't breathe"!! And we're saving all the monoclonal antibodies for the overweight folks because they REALLY need it.
Treat them with what? There's a severe shortage of monoclonal antibodies.
Why is there a shortage? If those were PROVEN to work (which I believe they are), then why don't we have an audacious plan like Operation Warp Speed to get them available to everyone who needs it?

There are other treatments as well. I think both Phizer and Moderna have "post-infection" treatments being generated now.

How about even something as cheap as Ivermectin? Why hasn't there been a serious domestic study to really see it it works or not. Many of the flawed studies mentioned are when applications were given when the patient was already in a severe condition, not as an early treatment like many are recommending! Also, why is the NIH's assessment of this based on foreign data?? (https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines. ... vermectin/) Not a single domestic evaluation of it has been done, despite have tens of millions of infections to test it on.



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Re: And…another variant

Post by Rate This » Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:02 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:51 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:29 am
km1125 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:41 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
If everyone were vaccinated you have a third the patients.
Not true.

You need to check your math.
If 33% of patients are vaccinated now and the other 66% had been the rate would still be 33% or very very close to it, the vaccine works that well.
He's right, your math is way off - it would lead to a 50% reduction in hospitalizations assuming there is a linear correlation.
Ok so I’m off by 17%… a 50% reduction sounds like a fuck of a lot better than this disaster…



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Re: And…another variant

Post by kager » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:42 pm

All written as if no one actually read the rather weak original post. I’m sure r4p is happy with all the attention you’ve given something that deserved none.


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Re: And…another variant

Post by Matt » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:41 pm

kager wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:42 pm
All written as if no one actually read the rather weak original post. I’m sure r4p is happy with all the attention you’ve given something that deserved none.
I clicked on the Forbes link but was already past my monthly limit, even though I don't remember the last time I clicked on a Forbes link.
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:02 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:51 am
Rate This wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:29 am
km1125 wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:41 am
Rate This wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:15 pm
km1125 wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 pm
Beaumont just admitted that about 33% of their patients are fully vaccinated. Perhaps they too should be blamed for clogging up the medical system.
If everyone were vaccinated you have a third the patients.
Not true.

You need to check your math.
If 33% of patients are vaccinated now and the other 66% had been the rate would still be 33% or very very close to it, the vaccine works that well.
He's right, your math is way off - it would lead to a 50% reduction in hospitalizations assuming there is a linear correlation.
Ok so I’m off by 17%… a 50% reduction sounds like a fuck of a lot better than this disaster…
I'd further add that if the vaccination rate was higher, you'd also likely see a lower infection rate amongst the vaccinated.


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