Blood On Their Hands

[Bryce]

Heavy Blue Toll: Law enforcement deaths hit record high in 2021

More police officers have died in 2021 than any other year in U.S. history, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund. The latest occurred Thursday when a Baltimore officer was ambushed and died.

In 2021, estimates range from 358 to 477 officers killed in the line of duty. Both numbers are still significantly higher than previous years.

The anti police rhetoric set forth by BLM and the leftist politicians that support them, along with the defund the police movement and no arrest policies are directly responsible for these numbers. Is anyone going to hold their feet to the fire?

[MWmetalhead]

That is a very misleading post (perhaps not your fault; the source you quoted appears to be to blame).

Most of those deaths were caused by COVID.

https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2021

Police officer is not even one of the 20 most dangerous professions:

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-to ... ted-states

[Bryce]

That is a very misleading post (perhaps not your fault; the source you quoted appears to be to blame).

Most of those deaths were caused by COVID.

https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2021

Police officer is not even one of the 20 most dangerous professions:

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-to ... ted-states

Those numbers do include Covid deaths. However...

The National Fraternal Order of Police, the world's largest organization of law enforcement officers, on Wednesday reported a record number of police officers shot and killed in 2021.

As of Tuesday midnight, the FOP recorded 314 officers shot in the line of duty — 58 of whom were killed.

"We are on pace this year to see the highest number of officers shot in the line of duty in one year ever recorded," FOP president Patrick Yoes said in a Wednesday statement.

It may not be in the top 20 most dangerous professions, but I think there is a big difference between suffering a work place accident and getting shot intentionally while doing your job.

[Lester The Nightfly]

That is a very misleading post (perhaps not your fault; the source you quoted appears to be to blame).

Most of those deaths were caused by COVID.

https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2021

Police officer is not even one of the 20 most dangerous professions:

https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-to ... ted-states

Those numbers do include Covid deaths. However...

The National Fraternal Order of Police, the world's largest organization of law enforcement officers, on Wednesday reported a record number of police officers shot and killed in 2021.

As of Tuesday midnight, the FOP recorded 314 officers shot in the line of duty — 58 of whom were killed.

"We are on pace this year to see the highest number of officers shot in the line of duty in one year ever recorded," FOP president Patrick Yoes said in a Wednesday statement.

It may not be in the top 20 most dangerous professions, but I think there is a big difference between suffering a work place accident and getting shot intentionally while doing your job.

Workplace death and/or injury is still death and/or injury irregardless of the circumstance in which they occur.

Keep on licking those piggy balls...

[Bryce]

Keep on licking those piggy balls...

I've had two friends go down in the line of Duty. One locally and one out of state. That's offensive in the extreme.

No worries, I wont seek out a "safe space" or try to get you "canceled" because of your views.

[Lester The Nightfly]

You know what I find offensive? The notion that any profession, race, gender or sexual preference is more entitled to a safe workplace more than another profession, race, gender or sexual preference. Again, dead is dead, injured is injured no matter what the endeavor.

While you're swinging your ban hammer threat, maybe go after the racists, misogynists and homophobes that regularly spew their vile around here if it's sweet justice you're seeking. In the mean time, fuck off.

[MWmetalhead]

Light sentencing and early parole of violent felons is a major issue. So is the ease with which a firearm can be purchased.

No officer - unless that officer is acting both violently and unlawfully - ever deserves to be exposed to gunfire or other violent threats on the job.

[TC Talks]

Let's also take a look at how these fine officers cause death and misery...

Would you happen to be part of the problem painting police as victims?

Inside the self-reinforcing ecosystem of paid experts who advise and train officers, then absolve those accused of killings.
...

Together they form what often amounts to a cottage industry of exoneration. The dozen or so individuals and companies have collected millions of dollars over the past decade, much of it in fees that are largely underwritten by taxpayers, who cover the costs of police training and policies and the legal bills of accused officers.

Many of the experts also have ties to Axon, maker of the Taser: A lawyer for the company, for example, was an early sponsor of the Institute for the Prevention of In-Custody Deaths, a commercial undertaking that is among the police-friendly entities, and some of the experts have worked as consultants for Axon; another has served on Axon’s corporate board.

The New York Times identified more than 100 instances of in-custody deaths or life-threatening injuries from the past 15 years in which experts in the network were hired to defend the police. The cases were nearly all civil lawsuits, as the officers involved were rarely charged with crimes. About two-thirds of the cases were settled out of court; of the 28 decided by judges or juries, 16 had outcomes favoring the police. (A handful of cases are pending.)

Beyond the courtroom, the individuals and businesses have offered instruction to thousands of police officers and medical examiners, whose cause-of-death rulings often help determine legal culpability. Lexipol, a Texas-based business whose webinars and publications have included experts from the network, boasts that it helped write policy manuals for 6,300 police departments, sometimes suggesting standards for officers’ conduct that reduce legal liability. A company spokeswoman said it did not rely on the researchers in making its policies.

NYTimes

[Deleted User 9015]

It never ceases to amuse me how these people have been so brainwashed in their ecosystem that their kneejerk reaction is to blame the bogeyman of the day, rather than to sit and think critically about something.

People have lost trust in the police, and for good reason! There is plenty of evidence of cops just all out attacking people and killing them. They can literally have a guy restrained and his face planted into the street and choke the life out of a guy, and there are dunderheads out there who will defend the cop. The Daniel Shaver video is another good example. The cop got off and the cops tried to prevent the widow from getting a copy of this video, saying that if they let her have the copy of the video of her husband being murdered by a police officer, she couldn't talk about it to the press, and we all know how bad the media is tosome people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc

Sure, there is the possibility that a cop will be held accountable, but if a cop is approaching you, you don't know if he is one of the many psychopaths who is only in the profession for the opportunity to outright assault or even murder someone. What makes it even worse is the degree to which the problem of cops murdering citizens is underreported.

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPd ... %2901609-3

Basically, it takes a childish degree of naivete to be willing to accept the police as innocent victims of a media smear campaign, opportunistic politicians, and a crooked movement enriching the people running it. Our culture accepts that cops have the power to restrain people and that they can use lethal weapons to intimidate people into coercion. On the other side of that power is the responsibility to not abuse that power or to abuse citizens, even if a citizen has committed a crime or is thought to have committed a crime. When cops are cooking the books or at least neglecting to do due diligence to ensure that every citizen killed by a police officer is accounted for to the point where its possible that twice as many deaths have occurred than the public knew, it becomes clear that there is a general knowledge of how bad the problem is among cops and law enforcement administation or cops just do not care.

BLM is a scam organization and left wing politicians are no less opportunistic than right wing politicians, but to blame BLM or politicians for creating a problem that's been brewing for decades is foolish.

[Bryce]

While you're swinging your ban hammer threat, maybe go after the racists, misogynists and homophobes that regularly spew their vile around here if it's sweet justice you're seeking. In the mean time, fuck off.

Evidently, in your leftist world, it's OK to spew hate at groups and people that have an opinion you don't like, but a major offense if the same is directed toward groups you do.

[TC Talks]

I would agree that you are ultimately quiet about any issue except those aimed at white men...

You are also the first to cry victim to anyone white who might be breaking the law but in a gray way.

[Bryce]

I would agree that you are ultimately quiet about any issue except those aimed at white men...

Your perspective is skewed. Probably because you're ensconced in one of the least racially diverse and lowest crime areas of our state.

Grand Traverse County has an overall crime rate of 1,848 per 100,000 residents. This is one of the safest regions in the United States.

The defund and dismantle the police movement, which I speak out against frequently, affects the Black community to a much greater degree than the white community.

[Bryce]

BLM is a scam organization and left wing politicians are no less opportunistic than right wing politicians, but to blame BLM or politicians for creating a problem that's been brewing for decades is foolish.

I must disagree. The anti police rhetoric, prohibiting proven policing techniques and the lenient or non existent prosecution of criminals espoused by the far left politicians that run many of our major cities directly contributes to the problem.

[Chrocket87]

I would agree that you are ultimately quiet about any issue except those aimed at white men...

Your perspective is skewed. Probably because you're ensconced in one of the least racially diverse and lowest crime areas of our state.

Grand Traverse County has an overall crime rate of 1,848 per 100,000 residents. This is one of the safest regions in the United States.

The defund and dismantle the police movement, which I speak out against frequently, affects the Black community to a much greater degree than the white community.

Charles Barkley agrees with that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thewra ... sters/amp/

[Deleted User 9015]

I must disagree. The anti police rhetoric, prohibiting proven policing techniques and the lenient or non existent prosecution of criminals espoused by the far left politicians that run many of our major cities directly contributes to the problem.

The data does not appear to support this position.

I went ahead and looked through police deaths from 2001-2021. The data is broken down by causes, and the causes seem to fit a few different categories: deaths caused by accidents, deaths caused by assailants, and deaths by illness. When you break out deaths caused by assailants from the other types, it appears that there were many years where there were more or the same number of deaths. Even the most frequent form of death, gunfire, has more deaths in other years than 2021. If all these issues you bring up were influencing fatal violence against police, it would seem likely that 2021 would be at the head of the pack, not tied with three other years for fourth place across the past 20 years. That's essentially high end of middle of the pack. The total is even within a standard deviation from the mean. Take a look.