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WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

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WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by Matt » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:13 am

Pathetic, yet predictable:
This has been a banner year for school choice across much of the U.S., and Michigan is the latest state to advance the cause. The GOP-led Legislature last week passed choice legislation that will force Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to choose between students and teachers unions.

Bills passed by the state House and Senate create tax-credit scholarships of as much as roughly $7,800 per student. The funds could be used for private-school tuition, tutoring expenses, transportation and more.

Students with disabilities, in foster care, or in families making no more than 200% of the income cap for reduced-price lunches—nearly $100,000 for a family of four—would be eligible. Individuals or businesses that donate to the scholarship funds would receive a tax credit equal to their donation. The legislation allows up to $500 million in credits in the first year. No Democrat voted for the legislation.

The partisan opposition is a shame. A poll sponsored by the American Federation for Children in June reported that 74% of voters support school choice, including 70% of Democrats. The pro-school-choice Mackinac Center last year found 49% of likely Michigan voters—55% of parents—in favor of tax-credit scholarships. Only 34% were opposed.

The bills meet growing demand fueled by parental frustration with public schools that has increased during the pandemic. At least 60% of Michigan public-school students started last school year hybrid or remote. In math and reading, Michigan K-8 students “appeared not to make normal progress towards learning goals,” reports Michigan State’s Education Policy Innovation Collaborative.

Families have flocked to charters and private schools or teaching at home. In Michigan the share of households with school-age children that are home-schooling jumped to 11% from 5% from spring to fall of 2020, according to the Census Bureau. A report from the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools found a 1.45% increase in the state’s charter enrollment from 2019-20 to 2020-21—and a nearly 5% decrease for traditional district schools, a loss of some 64,000 students.

The state already has nearly 300 charter schools and allows some students to attend out-of-district public schools. But a Blaine Amendment in the state constitution has barred the state from offering vouchers or education savings accounts for private K-12 schools. Five families are challenging this provision in a lawsuit. The scholarships differ from vouchers because public funds don’t go directly to students, and unions will sue to block them. But giving students more choice is still worth the legislative effort.

Standing in the schoolhouse door is Ms. Whitmer, whose spokesman told the Detroit Free Press the legislation is a “nonstarter.” Cost isn’t an issue, as the state is swimming in $6 billion in pandemic K-12 funds from Congress. Ms. Whitmer takes orders from the unions, and this year she’s already vetoed $1,000 voucher-like stipends for elementary students who struggle with reading.

The Governor is fundraising for her likely re-election campaign next year, and her hostility to even modest choice for students and parents creates an opening for GOP candidates.


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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by TC Talks » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:16 am

Have you seen how many corrupt charter schools have gone down in flames? We have had corruption in over half the charter organizations in our community.

When schools of choice have accountability to the same level public schools do maybe this conversation will be anything more than a non-starter.
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by craig11152 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:21 am

My very liberal middle daughter has her 3 kids in a charter school across town rather than the neighborhood school they could walk to in 9-10 minutes.
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by craig11152 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:26 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:16 am
When schools of choice have accountability to the same level public schools do maybe this conversation will be anything more than a non-starter.
The terms "Charter school" and "schools of choice" are not interchangeable.
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Post by TC Talks » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:55 am

So you're suggesting this stipend wouldn't be available to use at Charter schools, or the often unaccredited parochial schools?
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by audiophile » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:04 am

I used "schools of choice" to pick the best in the county. It turns out the administrators and teachers mostly have traditional values. No surprise that the two coincide.
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by km1125 » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:57 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:16 am
Have you seen how many corrupt charter schools have gone down in flames? We have had corruption in over half the charter organizations in our community.

When schools of choice have accountability to the same level public schools do maybe this conversation will be anything more than a non-starter.
Have you seen how many corrupt public school systems there are? Yet, they're not allowed to go "down in flames", but encouraged to continue to fester and consume and waste every single dollar that's thrown their way. If public schools would actually be allowed to fail and CLOSE and the folks responsible held accountable, perhaps we'd all get some better schools and some more effective use of our public dollars. If they really were effective, there'd be no need for charter schools or "schools of choice"!!

And now some folks want to add pre-K and community college to this debacle???? SMDH!!!

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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by TC Talks » Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:38 am

I certainly agree there are corrupt school districts however, they have an oversight system.

You do realize that Charter schools do not get held to the same standard of education that public schools do, correct?
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by Bryce » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:50 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:38 am
I certainly agree there are corrupt school districts however, they have an oversight system.

You do realize that Charter schools do not get held to the same standard of education that public schools do, correct?
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by TC Shuts Up » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:52 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:16 am
Have you seen how many corrupt charter schools have gone down in flames? We have had corruption in over half the charter organizations in our community.

When schools of choice have accountability to the same level public schools do maybe this conversation will be anything more than a non-starter.
Given your contempt, your eschewing of public schools, and past and recent experience with Private Schools, do you really have any "standing" on this issue?
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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by TC Shuts Up » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:58 am

Longstanding problem. Art has long imitated Life on this issue. Also, "Another Brick In The Wall" has a good read on teachers. "Hey, Teacher, Leave those kids alone!"

Also, an Eddie Cochran song tells about the problem of lack of "standing" with politicians.

Well I called my Congressman,
And he said quote,
I'd like to help you son,
But you're too young to vote.

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Re: WSJ: Whitmer chooses unions over students

Post by TC Talks » Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:40 am

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:52 am
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:16 am
Have you seen how many corrupt charter schools have gone down in flames? We have had corruption in over half the charter organizations in our community.

When schools of choice have accountability to the same level public schools do maybe this conversation will be anything more than a non-starter.
Given your contempt, your eschewing of public schools, and past and recent experience with Private Schools, do you really have any "standing" on this issue?
Yes, as a voter and a taxpayer. I support all education, but believe that public schools need to be protected, as education is the cure for ignorance.
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