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Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:37 am

This Op-Ed from the WaPo asks a VERY good question...
Why are unions and Democrats so opposed to giving poor children a choice in schooling?

I have a feeling that no one is going to answer it.
For 17 years, a federally funded K-12 scholarship program has given thousands of poor children in D.C. the opportunity to attend private schools and the chance to go on to college. And for many of those 17 years, the program has been in the crosshairs of unions and other opponents of private school vouchers. Their relentless efforts unfortunately may now finally succeed with House Democrats and the Biden administration quietly laying the groundwork to kill off this worthy program.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... am-unions/


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by TC Talks » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:33 am

I am reminded of the time Betsy DeVos paid millions of dollars to Donald Trump to be named education secretary so that she could protect her family's College loan programs. In the last month over a billion dollars in fraudulent education loans I've been forgiven, which by law should have been happening years ago.

I am sure this also upsets Bryce.

Forgive me when I don't pay much attention when a one percenter complains about poverty issues. More than likely there is more to the story than what has been presented here.
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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:57 am

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:33 am
More than likely there is more to the story than what has been presented here.
Is it because the Washington Post has a reputation for being such an ultra-conservative publication?
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by bmw » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:20 am

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:33 am
Forgive me when I don't pay much attention when a one percenter complains about poverty issues.
A higher percentage of blacks than whites support school choice. What is your response to them?

I'm fairly certain I've pointed this statistic out in this forum before.

EDIT - ah, here it is, I knew we had this discussion not all that long ago in here - https://mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/viewtopi ... 24&t=50779

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Inner-city blacks in particular support school choice by a significantly higher margin than any other group. My theory has always been that Democrats don't care about these blacks because they know that at the end of the day, most of them are still going to vote Democrat anyways. As far as the Democrat party is concerned, they'd rather have poor, inner-city black people upset with them than they would teachers' unions.

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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by TC Talks » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:37 pm

Some school districts have challenges and those challenges tend to be related to communities with higher rates of poverty. I think a more accurate way to summarize those who are in favor of charter schools would be point to the economic circumstances of the region not the color of their skin.

I guess I point to the overwhelming number of failed charter schools in areas of poverty that lead to revelations of fraud by the organizations that operate those schools.

Here is another Washington Post story about charter schools in Michigan and the idiot from Holland.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... education/

Here's a story about the fraud related to Charter schools
https://www.michiganradio.org/post/mich ... ver-opened I'm

Here's another story about failed charter schools in Michigan

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/maga ... -lost.html


I think these are representation of why I'm not a fan of charter schools. If academics had the same amount of accountability, and the leadership had the same amount of accountability as public schools then I would pay closer attention.
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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:56 pm

I seldom if ever say this - but kudos to the Washington Post!

Good find, Bryce.
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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:03 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:37 pm


I think these are representation of why I'm not a fan of charter schools. If academics had the same amount of accountability, and the leadership had the same amount of accountability as public schools then I would pay closer attention.

Accountability?
DETROIT – The Detroit Public Schools Community District (DPSCD) scored the lowest in the nation compared to 26 other urban districts for reading and mathematics at the fourth and grade levels.

That's according to 2017 testing results from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP). The Detroit schools also are one of four districts that had score decreases since 2015 for both grade 4 and grade 8 students.
Sure doesn't seem like anyone is being held accountable to me.

You bring up charter schools. The article and program in D.C. isn't for charter schools, it's for PRIVATE Schools. Schools like Cranbrook, Huron Valley Lutheran, Detroit Country Day and Notre Dame Prep here in the Metro Detroit area.

Anyone that would deny a economically challenged child an opportunity to attend a school like one of those in the D.C. area is evil pure and simple. Not surprising. Democrat policy has been evil for decades.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by TC Talks » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:48 pm

My point: they are being measured. Charters aren't.
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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:46 am

As far as the Democrat party is concerned, they'd rather have poor, inner-city black people upset with them than they would teachers' unions.
+1

The teachers' unions provide campaign funding, grassroots support, and are successful (to a degree) in garnering votes from white suburban women.
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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by audiophile » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:42 am

I have two cousins both from the same parents and both are male; one is retired teacher, one is retired auto worker.

The retired teacher is a democrat, an atheist, and tells everyone that they are uneducated and stupid on Facebook.

The retired autoworker is republican, a Christian and never says anything negative about anyone.

It's clear to me to see the brainwashing from teachers unions that they are somehow better than everyone else, to the point that the brothers never even speak.
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Re: Anti-Choice Democrats

Post by Turkeytop » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:41 pm

audiophile wrote:
Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:42 am
I have two cousins both from the same parents and both are male; one is retired teacher, one is retired auto worker.

The retired teacher is a democrat, an atheist, and tells everyone that they are uneducated and stupid on Facebook.

The retired autoworker is republican, a Christian and never says anything negative about anyone.

It's clear to me to see the brainwashing from teachers unions that they are somehow better than everyone else, to the point that the brothers never even speak.



I have a friend who is a teacher and a Christian. He's a Liberal. I have another friend who's an auto worker and a Hindu. He's a Liberal. I'm a socialist and an atheist. All three of us get along well together.
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