It's Foreign Terrorism, Not White Supremacy Or Trump, Caused Condo Collapse

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But back to your point. Someone wanted to kill a bunch of orthodox Jews. Rather than just, say, go into a synagogue on Friday night, they decided to bring down a 12 story condo building, without any knowledge of who was there at the time. This actually makes logical sense to you?

The ROP terrorists constantly change their MO. At an Orthodox Synagogue, they may now be ready with guns to use against terrorists. It's the Reform Division that believes in Gun Confiscation, and that the government will always be able to protect them, and that they don't need guns. Ever hear of JPFO? They have a website.

Biden will soon blame Trump supporters if history is any guide.

[TC Shuts Up]

You have fallen in the same trap most people do.

They create a narrative and then try to find "evidence" for it.

Let's discover the facts and then make a decision after that, shall we?

Oh, like the police always assume the husband or boyfriend did it when a woman is murdered?

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Please take a valium already, Petoskey.

[zzand]

Being serious for a moment, it seems Honeyman was correct, shoddy construction appears to be the leading vote getter for the collapse

[Deleted User 14896]

I am sue once all the investigating is done it will end up being shoddy construction or a sink hole type thing. I see no evidence other the ranting of an unbalanced poster calling it terrorism

I seen an article yesterday quoting people saying they knew it had been slowly sinking for awhile. Residents had been complaining about water marks, cracks in the walls, etc. Signs the building was shifting. Here's a TV report about the same thing:

https://www.news4jax.com/news/florida/2 ... ming-rate/

[Honeyman]

Sent to me from a friend in Fla:

Florida has been The Wild West for building codes for decades.

The collapsed apartment/condo structure was built when everyone was cutting corners. Using cheap beach sand in the concrete and a lot of rebar imported from Asia with bad metallurgy that would corrode (even in good concrete) was used to keep up with demand.

It took dozens of major hurricanes over 50 years for FL to update their building codes and require hurricane ties/braces for wooden roofs.

With tropical storms intensity increasing it makes you wonder about all those high rise condos on the Miami beachfront built over the last decade.

Want to talk about how many subdivisions have been built on wetlands? Roads and bridges built to accommodate the exploding population. An acquaintance quit his job as a city engineer in the Tampa area (and left FL) 2 years ago because developers and business could override his departments findings.

Florida’s population is 21M. Despite the hurricanes the state has added 7M in the last 30 years, 12M in 40 years. With that kind of growth and housing demand the pressure to build and cut corners is almost inevitable.

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Sent to me from a friend in Fla:

Florida has been The Wild West for building codes for decades.

The collapsed apartment/condo structure was built when everyone was cutting corners. Using cheap beach sand in the concrete and a lot of rebar imported from Asia with bad metallurgy that would corrode (even in good concrete) was used to keep up with demand.

It took dozens of major hurricanes over 50 years for FL to update their building codes and require hurricane ties/braces for wooden roofs.

With tropical storms intensity increasing it makes you wonder about all those high rise condos on the Miami beachfront built over the last decade.

Want to talk about how many subdivisions have been built on wetlands? Roads and bridges built to accommodate the exploding population. An acquaintance quit his job as a city engineer in the Tampa area (and left FL) 2 years ago because developers and business could override his departments findings.

Florida’s population is 21M. Despite the hurricanes the state has added 7M in the last 30 years, 12M in 40 years. With that kind of growth and housing demand the pressure to build and cut corners is almost inevitable.

Florida is good for Disney and that’s about all. Everything else about is a damn death trap.

[Turkeytop]

Police have been unable to track down the foreign terrorists who perpetrated this crime.

[audiophile]

Sent to me from a friend in Fla:

Florida has been The Wild West for building codes for decades.

The collapsed apartment/condo structure was built when everyone was cutting corners. Using cheap beach sand in the concrete and a lot of rebar imported from Asia with bad metallurgy that would corrode (even in good concrete) was used to keep up with demand.

It took dozens of major hurricanes over 50 years for FL to update their building codes and require hurricane ties/braces for wooden roofs.

With tropical storms intensity increasing it makes you wonder about all those high rise condos on the Miami beachfront built over the last decade.

Want to talk about how many subdivisions have been built on wetlands? Roads and bridges built to accommodate the exploding population. An acquaintance quit his job as a city engineer in the Tampa area (and left FL) 2 years ago because developers and business could override his departments findings.

Florida’s population is 21M. Despite the hurricanes the state has added 7M in the last 30 years, 12M in 40 years. With that kind of growth and housing demand the pressure to build and cut corners is almost inevitable.

Florida is good for Disney and that’s about all. Everything else about is a damn death trap.

That's how I feel driving in a blizzard on the expressway. Truck and buses way outdriving conditions,

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Sent to me from a friend in Fla:

Florida has been The Wild West for building codes for decades.

The collapsed apartment/condo structure was built when everyone was cutting corners. Using cheap beach sand in the concrete and a lot of rebar imported from Asia with bad metallurgy that would corrode (even in good concrete) was used to keep up with demand.

It took dozens of major hurricanes over 50 years for FL to update their building codes and require hurricane ties/braces for wooden roofs.

With tropical storms intensity increasing it makes you wonder about all those high rise condos on the Miami beachfront built over the last decade.

Want to talk about how many subdivisions have been built on wetlands? Roads and bridges built to accommodate the exploding population. An acquaintance quit his job as a city engineer in the Tampa area (and left FL) 2 years ago because developers and business could override his departments findings.

Florida’s population is 21M. Despite the hurricanes the state has added 7M in the last 30 years, 12M in 40 years. With that kind of growth and housing demand the pressure to build and cut corners is almost inevitable.

Florida is good for Disney and that’s about all. Everything else about is a damn death trap.

That's how I feel driving in a blizzard on the expressway. Truck and buses way outdriving conditions,

Whats your point?

[audiophile]

That each has it downsides. I have spent a month in Florida during the crappy weather months in Michigan. The beach and pool is a lot nicer than sitting in snow bank and watching your car rust.

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That each has it downsides. I have spent a month on Florida during the crappy weather months in Michigan and the beach and pool is a lot nicer than the sitting in snow bank watching your car rust.

The Pametto Bugs were enough to turn me off… bought a car from there and one hitched a ride in my pant leg and I found it one day in Saline. Not liking Florida now.

[audiophile]

What else bugs you?

I never met a Pametto bug, except once in Colorado.

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What else bugs you?

I never met a Pametto bug, except once in Colorado.

Palmetto.

[Turkeytop]

Palmetto Bugs are everywhere in Florida. They're as ubiquitous as the lizards that feast on them.