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Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:47 pm

Robert Faygo wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:20 pm
MCRF, serious comment.

I honestly think you have some COVID induced PTSD. It might be helpful for your long term wellbeing to bring this up with someone that can give you some coping tools to overcome your COVID fears.

I apologize for my previous harsh comments directed at you. Everyone has handled this thing differently and I'm legit concerned at how much this has impacted you.
Please read about zzand's family and how they have developed two infections in a few months(from the sounds of it).

https://mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/viewtopi ... &start=135

Maybe if I didn't have neurological problems or been in the hospital in March and April 2020, I would feel differently about COVID. My doctors and I are still trying to come to a diagnosis of what is going on with me. But I have back pain and twitching in my left arm. However, I still am looking for work and doing what I can. I don't regret taking the proper safety precautions.

I live in an area with a lot of seniors within this condo complex. The vast majority of them are pleasant and worked hard all of their lives. Don't deserve to die from this virus. I love my community. I am not really a fan of vaccines to be honest, but this situation is different.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Robert Faygo » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:57 pm

You have every right to feel the way you do, and legitimately so. I don't want to dismiss the seriousness of COVID, it's not something to be taken lightly for sure.

I just want to encourage you to consider your mental health as well as your physical health. Both are equally important and work together.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:40 pm

I agree if you only worry about death. But let's look at that. The under 30 population is approximately 21% of 10 million. Approximately 14% of the population contracted covid in the last wave. Let's say half of them are the under 30 crowd.

10mil x 14% = 1,400,000 infected * 50% = 7,000,000 infected.

1 in 10,000 dies, so that's 70 people in a two week period. No one in healthcare or life statistics would find that even approaching acceptable. That's why I'm happy you're not in policy.

But that's the problem with only looking at it from a statistical perspective. You miss additional problems that you don't consider.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20490351
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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Matt » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:47 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:31 pm
Robert Faygo wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:20 pm
MCRF, serious comment.

I honestly think you have some COVID induced PTSD. It might be helpful for your long term wellbeing to bring this up with someone that can give you some coping tools to overcome your COVID fears.

I apologize for my previous harsh comments directed at you. Everyone has handled this thing differently and I'm legit concerned at how much this has impacted you.
He's not the only one. Today I saw somebody in a long line at a Burger King drive-thru, window up, alone (as best I could tell), mask on. When I see people alone in their vehicles driving around with masks, I don't know whether to quietly to myself make fun of their ignorance or to feel sorry for them. The media and the government has indeed caused a sort of PTSD in a lot of people.

Me personally, I stressed out over this for the first few months (like, March, April, and May of 2020), but sometime in May or June, I accepted that whatever is going to happen is going to happen, and from that point I went on living my life, accepting that if I get Covid, I'll just deal with it. I'll tell you what - that attitude sure makes my life so much less stressful. Who needs the stress of worrying about whether they might die tomorrow? And it also really helps that the people in my inner circle have the same attitude.
People driving by themselves and wearing a mask are assholes. Hard stop. It is still possible to feel sorry for those types, but that is some kind of special.

I understand covid and covid-adjacent PTSD. I believe I have the latter, and I've really struggled with this concept that we have to live a diminished state of quality of life, even if it is temporary. Tomorrow is not guaranteed for anyone, so what does living in fear accomplish? Over the last 16+ months I've learned first hand the importance of mental health.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:53 pm

I was in Washington DC last weekend and I saw plenty of people driving around with their masks on. I was getting dirty looks because I was mountain biking without a mask. It's pretty much every city has their own ethos about this pandemic.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Matt » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:01 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:53 pm
I was in Washington DC last weekend and I saw plenty of people driving around with their masks on. I was getting dirty looks because I was mountain biking without a mask. It's pretty much every city has their own ethos about this pandemic.
I love DC. The last time I was there just before covid, I discovered the gem that is Stan's: https://stansdc.com/


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:27 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:47 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:31 pm
Robert Faygo wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:20 pm
MCRF, serious comment.

I honestly think you have some COVID induced PTSD. It might be helpful for your long term wellbeing to bring this up with someone that can give you some coping tools to overcome your COVID fears.

I apologize for my previous harsh comments directed at you. Everyone has handled this thing differently and I'm legit concerned at how much this has impacted you.
He's not the only one. Today I saw somebody in a long line at a Burger King drive-thru, window up, alone (as best I could tell), mask on. When I see people alone in their vehicles driving around with masks, I don't know whether to quietly to myself make fun of their ignorance or to feel sorry for them. The media and the government has indeed caused a sort of PTSD in a lot of people.

Me personally, I stressed out over this for the first few months (like, March, April, and May of 2020), but sometime in May or June, I accepted that whatever is going to happen is going to happen, and from that point I went on living my life, accepting that if I get Covid, I'll just deal with it. I'll tell you what - that attitude sure makes my life so much less stressful. Who needs the stress of worrying about whether they might die tomorrow? And it also really helps that the people in my inner circle have the same attitude.
People driving by themselves and wearing a mask are assholes. Hard stop. It is still possible to feel sorry for those types, but that is some kind of special.

I understand covid and covid-adjacent PTSD. I believe I have the latter, and I've really struggled with this concept that we have to live a diminished state of quality of life, even if it is temporary. Tomorrow is not guaranteed for anyone, so what does living in fear accomplish? Over the last 16+ months I've learned first hand the importance of mental health.
Lyft and Uber may require them to wear masks. If someone coughs in your car and they get out, the droplets can waft in vehicles for 10-15 minutes. What if their passengers had COVID? Or maybe they had a mask hole relative?


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Matt » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:34 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:27 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:47 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:31 pm
Robert Faygo wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:20 pm
MCRF, serious comment.

I honestly think you have some COVID induced PTSD. It might be helpful for your long term wellbeing to bring this up with someone that can give you some coping tools to overcome your COVID fears.

I apologize for my previous harsh comments directed at you. Everyone has handled this thing differently and I'm legit concerned at how much this has impacted you.
He's not the only one. Today I saw somebody in a long line at a Burger King drive-thru, window up, alone (as best I could tell), mask on. When I see people alone in their vehicles driving around with masks, I don't know whether to quietly to myself make fun of their ignorance or to feel sorry for them. The media and the government has indeed caused a sort of PTSD in a lot of people.

Me personally, I stressed out over this for the first few months (like, March, April, and May of 2020), but sometime in May or June, I accepted that whatever is going to happen is going to happen, and from that point I went on living my life, accepting that if I get Covid, I'll just deal with it. I'll tell you what - that attitude sure makes my life so much less stressful. Who needs the stress of worrying about whether they might die tomorrow? And it also really helps that the people in my inner circle have the same attitude.
People driving by themselves and wearing a mask are assholes. Hard stop. It is still possible to feel sorry for those types, but that is some kind of special.

I understand covid and covid-adjacent PTSD. I believe I have the latter, and I've really struggled with this concept that we have to live a diminished state of quality of life, even if it is temporary. Tomorrow is not guaranteed for anyone, so what does living in fear accomplish? Over the last 16+ months I've learned first hand the importance of mental health.
Lyft and Uber may require them to wear masks. If someone coughs in your car and they get out, the droplets can waft in vehicles for 10-15 minutes. What if their passengers had COVID? Or maybe they had a mask hole relative?
Left and Uber drivers are relatively well marked. I haven't noticed many. Most are Karens.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:05 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:40 pm
I agree if you only worry about death. But let's look at that. The under 30 population is approximately 21% of 10 million. Approximately 14% of the population contracted covid in the last wave. Let's say half of them are the under 30 crowd.

10mil x 14% = 1,400,000 infected * 50% = 7,000,000 infected.

1 in 10,000 dies, so that's 70 people in a two week period. No one in healthcare or life statistics would find that even approaching acceptable. That's why I'm happy you're not in policy.

But that's the problem with only looking at it from a statistical perspective. You miss additional problems that you don't consider.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20490351
And this is what I have been attempting to hammer home here. The more infections we have, the more cases with longer hauler syndrome. Wait until we see the record disability claims when people realize their ailments don't go away. Then, watch the pushback from the GOPee. We have an empathy debt in this country, and much of it is colored red.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by bmw » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:27 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:05 pm
We have an empathy debt in this country, and much of it is colored red.
That is utter nonsense. The "red" part of the country has all kinds of empathy for the tens of millions of lives that have been severely negatively impacted by the government's heavy-handed handling of Covid and the devastating effects that has had on every facet of life. I don't see much empathy from the "blue" part of the country for these people; in fact, from what I've seen, blue people not only have no empathy for these people, but they go so far as to marginalize these people whenever they rise up, calling them every name in the book.



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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Chrocket87 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:30 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:01 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:53 pm
I was in Washington DC last weekend and I saw plenty of people driving around with their masks on. I was getting dirty looks because I was mountain biking without a mask. It's pretty much every city has their own ethos about this pandemic.
I love DC. The last time I was there just before covid, I discovered the gem that is Stan's: https://stansdc.com/
I got a week scheduled off next month and am debating my return to DC (resuming my bucket list of checking out all the Smithsonians in DC) vs a hiking trip to Harpers Ferry for a few of those days. I might have to check out this Stans to break up my usual We The Pizza monotony when I go to DC.



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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:13 am

Chrocket87 wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:30 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:01 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:53 pm
I was in Washington DC last weekend and I saw plenty of people driving around with their masks on. I was getting dirty looks because I was mountain biking without a mask. It's pretty much every city has their own ethos about this pandemic.
I love DC. The last time I was there just before covid, I discovered the gem that is Stan's: https://stansdc.com/
I got a week scheduled off next month and am debating my return to DC (resuming my bucket list of checking out all the Smithsonians in DC) vs a hiking trip to Harpers Ferry for a few of those days. I might have to check out this Stans to break up my usual We The Pizza monotony when I go to DC.
Do your homework and get reservations. Most of the Michelin rated restaurants are 15 to 30 days out.

I also hit much of the Blue Ridge Parkway from Asheville to Charlottesville and got some good hiking time in. I would imagine either would be rewarding.


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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by zzand » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:58 am

I have been known to drive down the road, alone, with my mask on but only because I am so used to wearing the damn thing I forget it is there. I know I have a certain amount of Covid PTSD and I am sure those who have some form of it are in the majority. As for DC, the last time I was there it was a single reason. To visit the Wall. I felt as though I was on hallowed ground and sat there for along time just taking it in and paying respects to those listed there. It is like on other place in the city and I highly suggest a visit there to experience it for yourself. Finally, my state is Republican top to bottom, with the odd Democrat pocket and we have one of the highest vaccine rates in the country with almost 5 million fully vaccinated. The political angle on this doesn't play...period.



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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Rate This » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:36 am

zzand wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:58 am
I have been known to drive down the road, alone, with my mask on but only because I am so used to wearing the damn thing I forget it is there. I know I have a certain amount of Covid PTSD and I am sure those who have some form of it are in the majority. As for DC, the last time I was there it was a single reason. To visit the Wall. I felt as though I was on hallowed ground and sat there for along time just taking it in and paying respects to those listed there. It is like on other place in the city and I highly suggest a visit there to experience it for yourself. Finally, my state is Republican top to bottom, with the odd Democrat pocket and we have one of the highest vaccine rates in the country with almost 5 million fully vaccinated. The political angle on this doesn't play...period.
Did it occur to anyone that maybe some people wear it all the time so they don’t forget it somewhere? I know folks who have lost theirs myself included because of taking it on and off so much going in and out of a building and then setting it down somewhere or forgetting it in the car. It’s simpler sometimes to just do one thing.



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Re: Re-Opening Schedule for Michigan

Post by Matt » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:58 am

The Michigan vaccination dashboard is available here: https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0, ... --,00.html

Some posters could better use their time studying that site, rather than posting transgender hate.


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