Acceptable registrations in the queue through March 30 at 9:00a ET have now been activated. Enjoy! -M.W.

Terms of Use have been amended effective October 6, 2019. Make sure you are aware of the new rules! Please visit this thread for details: https://www.mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/view ... 16&t=48619

The Electoral College

Debate and discussion of current events and political issues across the U.S. and throughout the World. Be forewarned -- this forum is NOT for the intellectually weak or those of you with thin skins. Don't come crying to me if you become the subject of ridicule. **Board Administrator reserves the right to revoke posting privileges based on my sole discretion**
User avatar
Mark Elliott
Posts: 110
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:09 am

The Electoral College

Post by Mark Elliott » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:52 am

This topic has come up a few times.. are you comfortable that a voter in Wyoming has 3 times more "voting power" for President than yourself (if you are a Michigan voter)? I'm not.

https://theconversation.com/whose-votes ... lege-74280



User avatar
audiophile
Posts: 8574
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:21 pm
Location: Between 88 and 108 MHz.

Re: The Electoral College

Post by audiophile » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:14 pm

Yes, I would prefer electoral college to the county level, where each county gets at least one vote.


Ask not what your country can do FOR you; ask what they are about to do TO YOU!!

Deleted User 4520

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Deleted User 4520 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:48 pm

I'm not a fan of the Electoral College system.



User avatar
Honeyman
Posts: 5896
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:44 pm

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Honeyman » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:14 pm

Might have made sense in the 1800s, it doesn't now. The Republicans will move against it within the next decade. Georgia and Arizona turning blue this year and Texas, Florida, and NC headed in that direction will force them to.


The censorship king from out of state.

User avatar
Bryce
Posts: 7144
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:04 pm

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Bryce » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:33 pm

Sovereign States are also made up of land mass. Federal policy affects land mass as well as the people that reside within. Wyoming and Michigan are almost exactly equal in size with Wyoming at 97,814 square miles and Michigan comprising 97,990. One could argue that Wyoming is getting short changed by having only three electoral votes.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

User avatar
audiophile
Posts: 8574
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:21 pm
Location: Between 88 and 108 MHz.

Re: The Electoral College

Post by audiophile » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:59 pm

It would a have the UN-united states of America without the Electoral Collage.

That was part of the deal to get them to sign on.

Or would rather have the league of confederated states?


Ask not what your country can do FOR you; ask what they are about to do TO YOU!!

km1125
Posts: 3615
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:09 pm

Re: The Electoral College

Post by km1125 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:19 pm

If anything, the states should adopt something similar for their state-wide elections.



bmw
Posts: 6839
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:02 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by bmw » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:18 pm

I'm fine with the Electoral College, but I think all states should do it like Maine and Nebraska - basically, 2 winner-take-all electors for each state and 1 elector for the winner of each Congressional District (or possibly state-wide proportional allocation of all of its remaining electors so as to avoid the problems with gerrymandering). This would make it essentially 80% popular vote and 20% state vote.



MotorCityRadioFreak
Posts: 6450
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:26 am
Location: Warren, MI

Re: The Electoral College

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:30 pm

I am one of the few Democrats that has no problem with it, especially with Texas in the future.


They/them, non-binary and proud.

Remember that “2000 Mules” was concocted by a circus of elephants.
The right needs to stop worry about what’s between people’s legs. Instead, they should focus on what’s between their ears.
Audacity sucks.

User avatar
Rate This
Posts: 14122
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:17 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Rate This » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:03 pm

bmw wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:18 pm
I'm fine with the Electoral College, but I think all states should do it like Maine and Nebraska - basically, 2 winner-take-all electors for each state and 1 elector for the winner of each Congressional District (or possibly state-wide proportional allocation of all of its remaining electors so as to avoid the problems with gerrymandering). This would make it essentially 80% popular vote and 20% state vote.
That would guarantee Republican wins and make the land voting an even bigger problem...

Republicans have won one popular vote in 32 years... they are the only political party on earth that holds most of the positions that they do... that should be instructive on the message and how it requires some modification to continue as a going concern. Instead they are being propped up by a system that nobody else bothered to replicate because it doesn’t actually work the way it was intended.



bmw
Posts: 6839
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:02 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by bmw » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:11 pm

TC Talks was onboard with my suggestion when I made it several years ago. Interesting that you are not.



User avatar
TC Talks
Posts: 10333
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:41 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by TC Talks » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:01 pm

bmw wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:11 pm
TC Talks was onboard with my suggestion when I made it several years ago. Interesting that you are not.
The plan was a bit more complex several years ago if I recall.


“The more you can increase fear of drugs, crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.”
― Noam Chomsky

Posting Content © 2024 TC Talks Holdings LP.

User avatar
Rate This
Posts: 14122
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:17 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Rate This » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:15 am

bmw wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:11 pm
TC Talks was onboard with my suggestion when I made it several years ago. Interesting that you are not.
I firmly think that going proportional would disenfranchise the folks in larger cities. 10 people in the middle of nowhere in 8 or 10 districts in Michigan would decide the states vote... no thanks.



User avatar
Mark Elliott
Posts: 110
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:09 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Mark Elliott » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:30 am

R Bedell wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:26 am
I think our Founding Fathers did it right, and totally fine with the Electoral College
The Founding Fathers were also okay with landowners only voting and slavery.
Bryce wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:33 pm
Sovereign States are also made up of land mass. Federal policy affects land mass as well as the people that reside within. Wyoming and Michigan are almost exactly equal in size with Wyoming at 97,814 square miles and Michigan comprising 97,990. One could argue that Wyoming is getting short changed by having only three electoral votes.
This makes no sense to me. Please elaborate.

And BTW, letting state legislatures decide congressional districts is the same as letting the coyotes design the chicken coop security.



User avatar
Rate This
Posts: 14122
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:17 am

Re: The Electoral College

Post by Rate This » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:39 am

Mark Elliott wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:30 am
R Bedell wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:26 am
I think our Founding Fathers did it right, and totally fine with the Electoral College
The Founding Fathers were also okay with landowners only voting and slavery.
Bryce wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:33 pm
Sovereign States are also made up of land mass. Federal policy affects land mass as well as the people that reside within. Wyoming and Michigan are almost exactly equal in size with Wyoming at 97,814 square miles and Michigan comprising 97,990. One could argue that Wyoming is getting short changed by having only three electoral votes.
This makes no sense to me. Please elaborate.

And BTW, letting state legislatures decide congressional districts is the same as letting the coyotes design the chicken coop security.
The founding fathers were a naive bunch... they didn’t see factions or parties or any of that developing... HELLO...



Post Reply Previous topicNext topic