Has God Spoken?

[TC Talks]

Maybe God wants Biden to allow the poor and hungry into the Nation. God most certainly wants pursecuted African American Christians to be free of hate and racism.

God would want the a leader who has faith. Biden is your man.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Maybe God wants Biden to allow the poor and hungry into the Nation. God most certainly wants pursecuted African American Christians to be free of hate and racism.

God would want the a leader who has faith. Biden is your man.

Well, He gives man free will. I certainly think that God is saddened by the racist ideologies of the extremists and neglect of the poor. That is for sure.

[audiophile]

Yes they made choice, but God was like Burger King ...OK, HAVE IT YOUR WAY! THEN IN THE NEXT BATTLE THEIR BUTTS WERE KICKED.

So it God's will, or God has left us to own devices, and a big whoopin' is headed out way?

My church is all about Jesus and Agape love! About 2/3 minority including the pastor. No politics, no fluff, no baloney, AND everyone get challenged. Come as you are, but leave a changed person!

Your church's doctrine is based on predestination, which is a false doctrine.

[TC Talks]

So you basically have decided to pick and choose what you like from the Bible and preach that, correct?

All you have cited is Old Testament here.

[audiophile]

God most certainly wants pursecuted African American Christians to be free of hate and racism.

Then go to an African-American church. I do.

[TC Talks]

Believe me I have. I don't believe I've been closer to God than in a Detroit church.

[audiophile]

Not one of the social clubs that invites Kwame Kilpatrick.

[TC Talks]

Nope, nor I've been to the churches where the klan frequent. They were a good old Christian organization weren't they?

[audiophile]

Strom Thurmond's church?

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Yes they made choice, but God was like Burger King ...OK, HAVE IT YOUR WAY! THEN IN THE NEXT BATTLE THEIR BUTTS WERE KICKED.

So it God's will, or God has left us to own devices, and a big whoopin' is headed out way?

My church is all about Jesus and Agape love! About 2/3 minority including the pastor. No politics, no fluff, no baloney, AND everyone get challenged. Come as you are, but leave a changed person!

Your church's doctrine is based on predestination, which is a false doctrine.

Free will is the opposite of predestination, so I am not sure you were talking to me or not? I'm definitely not Calvinist.

By the way, I personally don't feel that predestination is a false doctrine (despite my disagreement with it). It is a matter of deference or opinion.

[audiophile]

No, I was referring to TCT.

[zzand]

When I first encountered TCT he was a religious person and I have watched over the years as he has turned away from his beliefs. So I discount anything he says about God or religion.

[TC Talks]

I am not a political Christian. Audio is. I can cite several obvious examples.

When religion becomes a business plan as it has with many churches, it's amazing how politics becomes important to self perpetuate.

I am an Elder and a Deacon, and I practice my faith for hours every week protecting those that people like audiophile want to attack and openly criticizes in his comments. He also is a supporter of wolves not a protector of sheep.

He can't even quote the New Testament because it goes against most of what he believes. And then tries to marginalize other denominations of Christianity. Read some of his comments in this post. Theologians would find some very interesting proclamations.

So don't try to marginalize faith Zzand. Unless you've changed jobs your paycheck doesn't depend on promoting Conservative Christian beliefs as a way to become wealthy and powerful.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

I am not a political Christian. Audio is. I can cite several obvious examples.

When religion becomes a business plan as it has with many churches, it's amazing how politics becomes important to self perpetuate.

I am an Elder and a Deacon, and I practice my faith for hours every week protecting those that people like audiophile want to attack and openly criticizes in his comments. He also is a supporter of wolves not a protector of sheep.

He can't even quote the New Testament because it goes against most of what he believes. And then tries to marginalize other denominations of Christianity. Read some of his comments in this post. Theologians would find some very interesting proclamations.

So don't try to marginalize faith Zzand. Unless you've changed jobs your paycheck doesn't depend on promoting Conservative Christian beliefs as a way to become wealthy and powerful.

Well said, and I follow the same line of reasoning with my faith. There is a separation of church and state as there should be.

[audiophile]

TCT your comments are laughable.

You are the one that tried to mix religion and politics by starting this thread! Hello!

I would never dream about starting a thread like this, because I can only point to pasts events as a reference, anyone that claims to speak with the authority of God in the present sense, like you do in this thread, is way out of line.

As soon as I rebut you presumptions of God's will and that the teaching of your church is in that line of thinking (IE no one has freewill) you personally attack me. There is no explanation that would cause someone to write a thread like this other than one that believes in predestination theology, hence the reason I took you on so firmly on that specific point.

By the way, Jesus and the disciples studied the old testament. And bragging about good works, only short-circuits them, best to say nothing. /1

/1 "Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven." Matthew 6:1