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The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

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The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by TC Talks » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:41 am

Maybe this is why he decided to start a fight with the World Health Organization. This one is going to sting during the campaign. This on its own would be acceptable but you got in the way the federal government has treated States on the topic of supplies and you have a fairly grim circumstance for his re-election bid.
“Trump gave China more than praise. He shipped China 17 tons of American masks and medical supplies. Our masks and supplies. Supplies we need now.”
and
“Under the direction of President Trump, the United States Government is responding rapidly. The U.S. was among the first nations to offer help to the Chinese people, and we are the largest financial backers of the World Health Organization and UNICEF. In early February, the United States delivered more than 17 tons of medical supplies to China donated by the American people. These supplies included masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials.”


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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by Matt » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:45 am

Links would help, although I'm sure you intentionally skipped posting it.


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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by Bryce » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:01 am

Our resident commie is playing fast and loose with the truth.

I'm just shocked, shocked I tell you....

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/factc ... -to-china/
The 30-second commercial, titled “Trust,” started running this week in select media markets in the swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. The super PAC said it’s “the first wave of a $15 million campaign” to counter TV spots airing from a pro-Trump group, America First Action.

The ad’s narrator then goes on to say: “Trump gave China more than praise. He shipped China 17 tons of American masks and medical supplies — our masks and supplies. Supplies we need now. Trump trusted China, sent China our supplies, and just look at the mess we’re in now.”

Actually, the supplies were donated by U.S.-based organizations and businesses in a humanitarian gesture at a time when nearly all of the reported cases of and deaths from the novel coronavirus were in China.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Post by TC Talks » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:33 am

Actually it was the Trump administration... The analysis to the commercial you reference is misleading.
Did the Trump Administration Send 18 Tons of PPE to China in Early 2020?
Critics have questioned the wisdom of exporting to China medical supplies that would soon be vitally needed in the U.S.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/us-tons-ppe-china/


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Post by Bryce » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:46 am

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:33 am
Actually it was the Trump administration... The analysis to the commercial you reference is misleading.
Did the Trump Administration Send 18 Tons of PPE to China in Early 2020?
Critics have questioned the wisdom of exporting to China medical supplies that would soon be vitally needed in the U.S.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/us-tons-ppe-china/
NO, the commercial is misleading.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Post by TC Talks » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:52 am

Really? Explain this official White House release... Kind of makes you full of shit.
“Under the direction of President Trump, the United States Government is responding rapidly. The U.S. was among the first nations to offer help to the Chinese people, and we are the largest financial backers of the World Health Organization and UNICEF. In early February, the United States delivered more than 17 tons of medical supplies to China donated by the American people. These supplies included masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials.”


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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:04 am

If they were donated by the American people for the express purpose of helping China, I have no issue with what occurred.


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Post by Bryce » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:33 am

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:52 am
Really? Explain this official White House release... Kind of makes you full of shit.
“Under the direction of President Trump, the United States Government is responding rapidly. The U.S. was among the first nations to offer help to the Chinese people, and we are the largest financial backers of the World Health Organization and UNICEF. In early February, the United States delivered more than 17 tons of medical supplies to China donated by the American people. These supplies included masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials.”
If you look at the date this was released, (February 15th) which you conveniently leave out, you see the misleading part. At that point, China was where Covid 19 was running rampant.

When did we discover Covid-19 could be an issue inside our border?
On February 26, a case in a person with "no known exposure to the virus through travel or close contact with a known infected individual" was confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).[11]
So, those supplies, which were donated by "The American People" not the Federal Government, again, repeat, "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE", were sent as a humanitarian effort.

The ad is misleading pure and simple.

Trump can't win with you TDS people, if he bans travel from China, he's accused of having, as Dementia Joe said, "a record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering." If the State Department arranges delivery of humanitarian medical supplies, he has "blood on his hands."


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Post by Matt » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:45 am

So this asshole posted a democrat political ad script as fact? That's a new low even for shim.


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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by TC Talks » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:57 am

Bryce,

If Trump had been reading any of his daily briefings he would have known how important that PPE would be in a month.

Who cares about the ad, focus on his lack of understanding about the pending threat.


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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by audiophile » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:02 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:04 am
If they were donated by the American people for the express purpose of helping China, I have no issue with what occurred.
I don't think experts thought it was so aerosol in February, but either way it wasn't the US government's property.


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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by Turkeytop » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:09 am

audiophile wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:02 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:04 am
If they were donated by the American people for the express purpose of helping China, I have no issue with what occurred.
I don't think experts thought it was so aerosol in February, but either way it wasn't the US government's property.
In February, the President was calling it a hoax.


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Post by bmw » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:30 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:09 am
In February, the President was calling it a hoax.
Nope.
What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... ly-remark/



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Post by Rate This » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:32 am

Bryce wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:33 am
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:52 am
Really? Explain this official White House release... Kind of makes you full of shit.
“Under the direction of President Trump, the United States Government is responding rapidly. The U.S. was among the first nations to offer help to the Chinese people, and we are the largest financial backers of the World Health Organization and UNICEF. In early February, the United States delivered more than 17 tons of medical supplies to China donated by the American people. These supplies included masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials.”
If you look at the date this was released, (February 15th) which you conveniently leave out, you see the misleading part. At that point, China was where Covid 19 was running rampant.

When did we discover Covid-19 could be an issue inside our border?
On February 26, a case in a person with "no known exposure to the virus through travel or close contact with a known infected individual" was confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).[11]
So, those supplies, which were donated by "The American People" not the Federal Government, again, repeat, "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE", were sent as a humanitarian effort.

The ad is misleading pure and simple.

Trump can't win with you TDS people, if he bans travel from China, he's accused of having, as Dementia Joe said, "a record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering." If the State Department arranges delivery of humanitarian medical supplies, he has "blood on his hands."
Fine... maybe you’re right... but that 30 second ad (just like the one that cuts his speeches into pieces against an escalating case count) looks And sounds devastating. Doesn’t matter if it’s true... it’s got to be effective. The GOP has plenty of their own similar ads airing or planned to air in the future against Biden on different topics.



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Re: The Trump Administration Ships our PPE to China

Post by Bryce » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:42 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:57 am

Who cares about the ad, focus on his lack of understanding about the pending threat.
Hmmm, I didn't see him walking around Chinatown like the Squawker of the House, shaking hands and having lunch. He was busy making sure people from China, the "epicenter" . as your Squaker said, couldn't fly into our country.
As Pelosi walked from the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory to lunch at a dim sum restaurant, she hugged friends and waved to onlookers. She downplayed the racism issue, saying she understands people are concerned about China – the epicenter of the novel coronavirus.

"But that shouldn’t be carried over to Chinatown in San Francisco," she said. "I hope that it’s not that. But all I can say is, 'I’m here.' We feel safe and sound, so many of us coming here."
Maybe it was a brain freeze from eating all that ice cream stored in her twin 25.000.00 feezers.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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