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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by km1125 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 am

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Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:05 pm
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Who can blame Trump for not believing the Deep State? They have been trying now for over four years to get rid of him. And the Sheep State believes the Deep State if it helps get rid of Trump. Ever hear of The Democrat Who Cried Wolf?

The Deep State would gladly eliminate the "Deplorables", one way or another. You people in the Sheep State could care less. The end justifies the means, as Communists have always believed.
If being part of the deep state means respecting what the country stood for before the tea party and Trump bobble heads took over than count me in.
Being part of Deep State is nothing about respecting what the country stands for, but yet the complete opposite. It is using your position in government and the power of government to subvert the principles on which this country was founded.

What was that Reagan quote about liberals... "...they know so many things that aren't so"



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:49 am

km1125 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 am
Rate This wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:05 pm
TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:42 pm
Who can blame Trump for not believing the Deep State? They have been trying now for over four years to get rid of him. And the Sheep State believes the Deep State if it helps get rid of Trump. Ever hear of The Democrat Who Cried Wolf?

The Deep State would gladly eliminate the "Deplorables", one way or another. You people in the Sheep State could care less. The end justifies the means, as Communists have always believed.
If being part of the deep state means respecting what the country stood for before the tea party and Trump bobble heads took over than count me in.
Being part of Deep State is nothing about respecting what the country stands for, but yet the complete opposite. It is using your position in government and the power of government to subvert the principles on which this country was founded.

What was that Reagan quote about liberals... "...they know so many things that aren't so"
So you dislike the way the country was from 1950 to about 2016?

Not only that but if you have to come in and change the establishment way of doing things and tear everything up and all of these unorthodox things... you might be a radical. Trump and his band of merry men are radicals, there’s no other way to describe it.



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by km1125 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:02 pm

Rate This wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:49 am
km1125 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 am
Rate This wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:05 pm
TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:42 pm
Who can blame Trump for not believing the Deep State? They have been trying now for over four years to get rid of him. And the Sheep State believes the Deep State if it helps get rid of Trump. Ever hear of The Democrat Who Cried Wolf?

The Deep State would gladly eliminate the "Deplorables", one way or another. You people in the Sheep State could care less. The end justifies the means, as Communists have always believed.
If being part of the deep state means respecting what the country stood for before the tea party and Trump bobble heads took over than count me in.
Being part of Deep State is nothing about respecting what the country stands for, but yet the complete opposite. It is using your position in government and the power of government to subvert the principles on which this country was founded.

What was that Reagan quote about liberals... "...they know so many things that aren't so"
So you dislike the way the country was from 1950 to about 2016?

Not only that but if you have to come in and change the establishment way of doing things and tear everything up and all of these unorthodox things... you might be a radical. Trump and his band of merry men are radicals, there’s no other way to describe it.
The Deep State did not run everything in our country from the 50s to 2016!!



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:28 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:02 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:49 am
km1125 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:23 am
Rate This wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:05 pm
TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:42 pm
Who can blame Trump for not believing the Deep State? They have been trying now for over four years to get rid of him. And the Sheep State believes the Deep State if it helps get rid of Trump. Ever hear of The Democrat Who Cried Wolf?

The Deep State would gladly eliminate the "Deplorables", one way or another. You people in the Sheep State could care less. The end justifies the means, as Communists have always believed.
If being part of the deep state means respecting what the country stood for before the tea party and Trump bobble heads took over than count me in.
Being part of Deep State is nothing about respecting what the country stands for, but yet the complete opposite. It is using your position in government and the power of government to subvert the principles on which this country was founded.

What was that Reagan quote about liberals... "...they know so many things that aren't so"
So you dislike the way the country was from 1950 to about 2016?

Not only that but if you have to come in and change the establishment way of doing things and tear everything up and all of these unorthodox things... you might be a radical. Trump and his band of merry men are radicals, there’s no other way to describe it.
The Deep State did not run everything in our country from the 50s to 2016!!
The Deep State doesn’t actually exist... it’s kind of like Santa Claus. So what you actually have are people who know the way things have worked for a very long time, know what the radical Trumpians plans will do to the country and they resist slightly because the directives don’t make sense and don’t seem right.

So basically The establishment would be the mainstream. Any attempts to upend the mainstream would by definition be radical. Therefore Trump and his band of merry men are radicals trying to upend current conventional thinking. They aren’t trying to go back to the “way it was” or something. Much of what they have done has never been tried before. They are trying to upend the history and evolution of the country going back to 1945 and replace it with the way they fantasize it was, maybe too many Leave It To Beaver reruns? Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:34 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 am
Why should these people have all the cushy government jobs and pensions, and other people struggle without them in the private sector?
So, now you're calling for Socialism?

If you are "struggling" in the private sector, maybe it's because you lack the skills employers desire?

BTW, it is certainly true that China has NOT been helpful to the U.S. in this matter, as the below article evidences:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coro ... index.html
By their obsession with and in the false name of fairness, they've all but eliminated the Christian Heterosexual Conservative White Male from positions of power in government. It is now difficult in the private sector for them to get a job with any kind of benefits, let alone a pension. A lot of them have become independent contractors. The only way they can prepare for retirement is to invest in the stock market, since the deep state internationalists have made the bank interest rates so low that it is impossible any other way. Now it's collapsed/collapsing. The gubmint workers still have their cushy pensions. That is why the deep state fights so hard for their own. The gubmint just prints more money. Hyperinflation will do them in eventually, but they have managed to punish the deplorables for voting for Trump, so it's worth it to them in the mean time.


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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:40 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:34 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 am
Why should these people have all the cushy government jobs and pensions, and other people struggle without them in the private sector?
So, now you're calling for Socialism?

If you are "struggling" in the private sector, maybe it's because you lack the skills employers desire?

BTW, it is certainly true that China has NOT been helpful to the U.S. in this matter, as the below article evidences:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coro ... index.html
By their obsession with and in the false name of fairness, they've all but eliminated the Christian Heterosexual Conservative White Male from positions of power in government. It is now difficult in the private sector for them to get a job with any kind of benefits, let alone a pension. A lot of them have become independent contractors. The only way they can prepare for retirement is to invest in the stock market, since the deep state internationalists have made the bank interest rates so low that it is impossible any other way. Now it's collapsed/collapsing. The gubmint workers still have their cushy pensions. That is why the deep state fights so hard for their own. The gubmint just prints more money. Hyperinflation will do them in eventually, but they have managed to punish the deplorables for voting for Trump, so it's worth it to them in the mean time.
A lot of the people you are criticizing are straight, white, Christian and male. You don’t have to superglue an (R) next to your name to be liberal, a Christian, White or a male. Most of these people don’t have the skills necessary or something is out of whack on their resumes... the conspiracy theory stuff is idiotic. No vast shadow network of people pulling strings in dark corners exists to take down Trump or Trumpism (This populist Trump thing really isn’t conservatism as Reagan knew it). But they need scapegoats and so it’s always somebody else’s fault or there’s some foil that needs to exist in the meantime. There is no freakin deep state.



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:07 pm

Explain to me just exactly what is wrong with their resumes. Don't tell me HR found something. That's where corporations ought to start cutting. HR. They are useless.

Another expample. Government workers at all levels, which includes teachers, have for decades been retiring at age 50-55 and collecting their cushy pensions. If they get a $50,000 a year pension, and live until 70-75, they've collected $1,000,000 from a cushy gubmint pension. Say the independent contractors managed to get a modest (by today's standards) $500,000 to $1,000,000 portfolio. It has been significantly in stocks because it had to be to try to whip even low inflation. You can't do that with bank interest of 0.01%. So now the inependent contractor has nothing. But the band played on, and the cushy gubmint pensions continued, doled out to privileged groups by HR.

Most of the people you demean do have the skills. I have heard this HR type BS for 40 years, while they enforce gubmint edicts. They used to call the "deplorables" "Marginal Men" as an excuse, while letting less quualified people fill the positions. I've heard this BS before.


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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:15 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:07 pm
Explain to me just exactly what is wrong with their resumes. Don't tell me HR found something. That's where corporations ought to start cutting. HR. They are useless.

Another expample. Government workers at all levels, which includes teachers, have for decades been retiring at age 50-55 and collecting their cushy pensions. If they get a $50,000 a year pension, and live until 70-75, they've collected $1,000,000 from a cushy gubmint pension. Say the independent contractors managed to get a modest (by today's standards) $500,000 to $1,000,000 portfolio. It has been significantly in stocks because it had to be to try to whip even low inflation. You can't do that with bank interest of 0.01%. So now the inependent contractor has nothing. But the band played on, and the cushy gubmint pensions continued, doled out to privileged groups by HR.

Most of the people you demean do have the skills. I have heard this HR type BS for 40 years, while they enforce gubmint edicts. They used to call the "deplorables" "Marginal Men" as an excuse, while letting less quualified people fill the positions. I've heard this BS before.
Ah so what do you say to the white Christian straight men who are teachers and will have such a pension? There are many many of them. Are they secretly black transvestites in white face or something?

There is no vast conspiracy and these people could go and find work either in their field or doing something else if they wanted. Not having exactly the job you want is VERY different than not having a job. This is the former and not the latter. I have far less sympathy for someone who can’t get their wish list job.



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:49 pm

Just an example.

A Black Homosexual worked for a company I was familiar with. He was a Manager. He couldn't get along with anybody. He canned just about everybody that didn't quit. Sometimes the same person was rehired two or three times by the company because they couldn't establish sufficient cause. All the people who worked for him left the company, except a few that were rehired in a different division. He used a made up name on Facebook, but it was found out who it was. He posted the most HORRIBLY RACIST POSTS, anti-White of course, but was never banned from Facebook. He was reported to HR, but they said there was nothing they could do except build a dossier that would eventually give them sufficient cause to dismiss and not be sued. It's been years. He's been moved around, kicked laterally, but still works for the company. He got into a horrible accident while posting a racist anti-White diatribe video on Facebook while driving. The video showed him driving while doing the video.


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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:13 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:49 pm
Just an example.

A Black Homosexual worked for a company I was familiar with. He was a Manager. He couldn't get along with anybody. He canned just about everybody that didn't quit. Sometimes the same person was rehired two or three times by the company because they couldn't establish sufficient cause. All the people who worked for him left the company, except a few that were rehired in a different division. He used a made up name on Facebook, but it was found out who it was. He posted the most HORRIBLY RACIST POSTS, anti-White of course, but was never banned from Facebook. He was reported to HR, but they said there was nothing they could do except build a dossier that would eventually give them sufficient cause to dismiss and not be sued. It's been years. He's been moved around, kicked laterally, but still works for the company. He got into a horrible accident while posting a racist anti-White diatribe video on Facebook while driving. The video showed him driving while doing the video.
I was harassed and resigned before being canned by a white guy fitting this description who had been moved 3 times already... what’s your point?



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by km1125 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:36 pm

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Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:28 pm
The Deep State doesn’t actually exist... it’s kind of like Santa Claus. So what you actually have are people who know the way things have worked for a very long time, know what the radical Trumpians plans will do to the country and they resist slightly because the directives don’t make sense and don’t seem right.

So basically The establishment would be the mainstream. Any attempts to upend the mainstream would by definition be radical. Therefore Trump and his band of merry men are radicals trying to upend current conventional thinking. They aren’t trying to go back to the “way it was” or something. Much of what they have done has never been tried before. They are trying to upend the history and evolution of the country going back to 1945 and replace it with the way they fantasize it was, maybe too many Leave It To Beaver reruns? Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
You have no clue what the Deep State is, so it's no wonder you can't recognize it.

What have you been smoking?



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:53 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:36 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:28 pm
The Deep State doesn’t actually exist... it’s kind of like Santa Claus. So what you actually have are people who know the way things have worked for a very long time, know what the radical Trumpians plans will do to the country and they resist slightly because the directives don’t make sense and don’t seem right.

So basically The establishment would be the mainstream. Any attempts to upend the mainstream would by definition be radical. Therefore Trump and his band of merry men are radicals trying to upend current conventional thinking. They aren’t trying to go back to the “way it was” or something. Much of what they have done has never been tried before. They are trying to upend the history and evolution of the country going back to 1945 and replace it with the way they fantasize it was, maybe too many Leave It To Beaver reruns? Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
You have no clue what the Deep State is, so it's no wonder you can't recognize it.

What have you been smoking?
Ok go ahead and define the supposed "Deep State" for us... There is no denying that Trump and his merry men ARE radicals however.



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by TC Shuts Up » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:00 pm

Deep just means embedded. These people are embedded in the government. That means it's almost impossible to get them out. The most dangerous embedded ones are in the FBI and CIA.


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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Rate This » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:11 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:00 pm
Deep just means embedded. These people are embedded in the government. That means it's almost impossible to get them out. The most dangerous embedded ones are in the FBI and CIA.
And trying so desperately to get them out by hook or by crook is the definition of what radicals do as step one of changing the government to their preferred structure.



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Re: John Bolton Speaks

Post by Motown322 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:46 pm

TC Shuts Up wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:49 pm
Just an example.

A Black Homosexual worked for a company I was familiar with. He was a Manager. He couldn't get along with anybody. He canned just about everybody that didn't quit. Sometimes the same person was rehired two or three times by the company because they couldn't establish sufficient cause. All the people who worked for him left the company, except a few that were rehired in a different division. He used a made up name on Facebook, but it was found out who it was. He posted the most HORRIBLY RACIST POSTS, anti-White of course, but was never banned from Facebook. He was reported to HR, but they said there was nothing they could do except build a dossier that would eventually give them sufficient cause to dismiss and not be sued. It's been years. He's been moved around, kicked laterally, but still works for the company. He got into a horrible accident while posting a racist anti-White diatribe video on Facebook while driving. The video showed him driving while doing the video.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that NOTHING in the above paragraph is true... this reads like a "DON'T BE AFRAID TO SHARE THIS!!!!" post on Facebook that floats around among the angry old people.



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