Fact Checking Trump's Margin And Illegal Voting Claims

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Sean Spicer is spinning away:

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's press secretary on Tuesday mischaracterized the election results and the findings of a study that purported to show significant voting in the past by non-citizens.

Statements by Sean Spicer and how they compare with the facts:

SPICER: "He won overwhelmingly with 306 electoral votes, the most since any Republican since Reagan."

THE FACTS: Not the most since Reagan, and not an overwhelming victory by history's standards. You only have to go back to George H.W. Bush to find a bigger Republican Electoral College winner. Bush captured 426 electoral votes in 1988, or 79 percent, well ahead of Trump with 306 electoral votes, or 57 percent.

Trump actually ended up with 304 electoral votes because of the defection of two electors in December, but he had won enough states to get to 306.

The broader context: Trump's victory ranked 46th out of the 58 elections since the nation's founding, far from the "landslide" that Trump himself has often claimed.

Reagan achieved true blowouts, winning 489 electoral votes (91 percent) in 1980 and 525 (97.6 percent) in 1984.

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SPICER: "I think there's been studies. There's one that came out of Pew in 2008 that showed 14 percent of people who voted were noncitizens."

THE FACTS: First, Spicer mixes up studies. Second, he misrepresents the conclusions.

The Pew study, released in 2012 and based in part on 2008 results, was about outdated or otherwise inaccurate voter registration records, not about votes illicitly cast by noncitizens.

David Becker, an author of that study, said his report never found fraud. Moreover, he tweeted Tuesday that voting integrity in 2016 was "better in this election than ever before."

The issue of noncitizen voting actually was examined in a 2014 study by two Old Dominion University professors who wrote about their findings in The Washington Post.

They did not conclude, as Spicer said, that more than 14 percent of voters were noncitizens. They said that an estimated 14 percent or more of noncitizens had registered to vote — a much smaller universe of people. Moreover, only "some of these noncitizens voted," they said.

Their "best guess" was that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent in 2010.

Even those modest numbers were sharply disputed by other academics because of the study's methodology. But even if the study were right, it would not support Spicer's assertion. Nor does it support Trump's repeated statements that illicit voting by people in the country illegally cost him a majority of the popular vote in November.

The broader context: No evidence of significant voter fraud surfaced from the 2016 election, despite plenty of digging.

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Alternative Fact #44

Three million voted illegally and every one of them voted for Hillary

[Calvert DeForest]

And now he wants an investigation?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/ ... index.html

Okay....

1) He won the election. He's the president. What does the popular vote matter to him at this point?

2) The taxpayers will pick up the tab for any probe (yes, I get the pun there). We're wasting our money on this?

3) Mr. Trump wants the Department of Homeland Security to head up the "investigation". Doesn't the DHS have better things to do?

4) His own attorneys stated after Jill Stein's challenge in November that they found no evidence of voter fraud.

5) Executive Order? Really? Give the pen a rest Mr. President. Your Twitter account is waiting.

I can't wait to hear the next Lewis Black album!