Pro Lifers should be Anti Gun

[Deleted User 8570]

You missed my deterrent point.

No... I was responding to your gun free zones comment... It's flawed for the reasons listed above.

[Bryce]

You missed my deterrent point.

So the same scriptures for killing unborn children doesn't apply to killing a fellow man? Your typical pro gun speak doesn't work when applied to the 1st commandment. It's sin plain and simple.

Your argument is specious at best. First, most gun owners, myself included, have no desire to kill anyone. The gun is there as a tool of last resort. Everyone that has had an abortion or performed one, has ended a life.

Second, the bible is pretty clear on this:

Exodus 22 vs. 2

"If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.

[audiophile]

TT once stated something that applies here:

A car is a tool to transport you from A to B. Cars can also kill.

A knife's primary uses are numerous, mostly for cutting. Knives can also kill

A Gun is designed to kill. You can't open a can or change the TV channel with one, killing is its purpose.

So if you support guns you do support killing. Audio, as for the second amendment, are you suggesting you are putting country before God? No where is the constitution does it say abortion is not permitted. With your logic, you should be totally fine with abortion.

Some my relatives like shooting up old farm implements on their 160 acre farm, I can assure you no killing is going on there. It's just fun to them.

My neighbor harvested their cows with a rifle and front loader. It's a tool - in the right hands it serves a purpose.

You're right, no where does it say anything about abortion, and I'm still confused how 5 justices found "first trimester" in it. It does however talk about the right to bare arms.

[Deleted User 8570]

You missed my deterrent point.

So the same scriptures for killing unborn children doesn't apply to killing a fellow man? Your typical pro gun speak doesn't work when applied to the 1st commandment. It's sin plain and simple.

Your argument is specious at best. First, most gun owners, myself included, have no desire to kill anyone. The gun is there as a tool of last resort. Everyone that has had an abortion or performed one, has ended a life.

Second, the bible is pretty clear on this:

Exodus 22 vs. 2

"If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.

You can use the bible to support any position you want. I can use it to argue all governments do gods bidding and no government is ungodly... It's written quite plainly. Using it to prove a point is kind of pointless...

[Bryce]

You can use the bible to support any position you want. I can use it to argue all governments do gods bidding and no government is ungodly... It's written quite plainly. Using it to prove a point is kind of pointless...

I'm not the one that introduced "scriptures" into the discussion lad.

[Deleted User 8570]

You can use the bible to support any position you want. I can use it to argue all governments do gods bidding and no government is ungodly... It's written quite plainly. Using it to prove a point is kind of pointless...

I'm not the one that introduced "scriptures" into the discussion lad.

No but you're the one who tried to prove a point by quoting them grasshopper...

[TC Talks]

So if God makes exceptions for guns, I could make the justification for abortion. Just so we are clear...

[Bryce]

So if God makes exceptions for guns, I could make the justification for abortion. Just so we are clear...

YOU can make any justification you'd like. As for God, you'd have to show me where he/she/it/life-form made that exception. Self defense is a pretty clear concept scripturally, I have a feeling that ripping a fetus from the womb for convenience sake, not so much.

[audiophile]

TCT here's a pretty fair read:
http://rickwarren.org/devotional/englis ... fore-birth

[Matt]

Most Pro Lifers are hypocrites. Because deaths due to Guns are the #3 cause of unnatural death in the US, about to surpass vehicle accidents. How can a pro lifer justify supporting a killing machine?


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