Splain This Rucy!

[Deleted User 8570]

100% agree Bryce!

If you have ever owned a business there will be times when you take a big fat zero for a paycheck so your employees get paid in full and on time. There will also be times that the employees make more than you in a year.

A $15 dollar minimum wage doesn't give flexibility a business owner needs. If an inexperienced worker comes in says they will work reduced wage because they want to learn the ropes, why should a small business owner be required to pay $15 if the worker understands they are not worth it?

Or what if someone wants to volunteer in your business? Government tells you that you can't do that?

I don't think there is anything in law against volunteering...

[TC Talks]

If you can't make money paying $15 an hour, maybe you shouldn't be in business. The $5 in productivity example suggests that maybe the problem isn't the wage, but the business concept.

Audio, I am a big fan of the defined multiplier of leader to entry level employee. Especially in public corporations.

[Matt]

If you can't make money paying $15 an hour, maybe you shouldn't be in business. The $5 in productivity example suggests that maybe the problem isn't the wage, but the business concept.

Audio, I am a big fan of the defined multiplier of leader to entry level employee. Especially in public corporations.

I don't get why lefties do not understand inflation. $15/hour is a TERRIBLE idea for minimum wage.

[TC Talks]

If you can't make money paying $15 an hour, maybe you shouldn't be in business. The $5 in productivity example suggests that maybe the problem isn't the wage, but the business concept.

Audio, I am a big fan of the defined multiplier of leader to entry level employee. Especially in public corporations.

I don't get why lefties do not understand inflation. $15/hour is a TERRIBLE idea for minimum wage.

Do the math, the lowest wage earners would still come out ahead. Raw materials impact inflation, not wages.

. Hourly wage to afford a two bedroom apartment. Many low wage earners have kids.

[Matt]

Minimum wage is not intended to be a living wage. Its also basic economics that a rapid input price increase is going to increase inflation.

[audiophile]

100% agree Bryce!

If you have ever owned a business there will be times when you take a big fat zero for a paycheck so your employees get paid in full and on time. There will also be times that the employees make more than you in a year.

A $15 dollar minimum wage doesn't give flexibility a business owner needs. If an inexperienced worker comes in says they will work reduced wage because they want to learn the ropes, why should a small business owner be required to pay $15 if the worker understands they are not worth it?

Or what if someone wants to volunteer in your business? Government tells you that you can't do that?

I don't think there is anything in law against volunteering...

I think you are wrong.

Under the FLSA, employees may not volunteer services to for-profit private sector employers.
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/d ... nteers.asp

[Deleted User 8570]

100% agree Bryce!

If you have ever owned a business there will be times when you take a big fat zero for a paycheck so your employees get paid in full and on time. There will also be times that the employees make more than you in a year.

A $15 dollar minimum wage doesn't give flexibility a business owner needs. If an inexperienced worker comes in says they will work reduced wage because they want to learn the ropes, why should a small business owner be required to pay $15 if the worker understands they are not worth it?

Or what if someone wants to volunteer in your business? Government tells you that you can't do that?

I don't think there is anything in law against volunteering...

I think you are wrong.

Under the FLSA, employees may not volunteer services to for-profit private sector employers.
http://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/d ... nteers.asp

EMPLOYEES... I was talking about new people saying sure I'll help you and it's at no charge, not employees staying late on Saturday night for no pay...

[Deleted User 24]

What if you employ the disabled because you want them to have purpose and dignity?

Do I have to pay them $15 an hour?

Paying someone less than minimum wage does not offer them "purpose and dignity." It is exploitation, pure and simple.

[audiophile]

I never suggested less than current minimum waqe.

However if you're suggesting everyone should get paid the same, then we have difference of opinion.

[Deleted User 8570]

I never suggested less than current minimum waqe.

However if you're suggesting everyone should get paid the same, then we have difference of opinion.

What if the person is handicapped but very very good at their job?

From a moral standpoint if you have more physical or mental issues it's almost always more expensive to exist, not paying them more could be immoral...

[audiophile]

Then they should get more.

[Deleted User 8570]

Then they should get more.

So you would advocate a 100% merit based system of pay?

[Deleted User 13307]

Volunteering is a 'fun' area of tax law. Many concert / sports venues use "volunteers" to staff concessions. The workers/volunteers are not paid, instead the venue "donates" a percentage to the charities that provide the volunteers. Very creative way to get VERY cheap labor - often for way less than minimum wage with zero benefits and workmans comp concerns.

[Bryce]

If you can't make money paying $15 an hour, maybe you shouldn't be in business. The $5 in productivity example suggests that maybe the problem isn't the wage, but the business concept.
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Try selling a 5 dollar pizza being made by people making 15.00 per hour. Not my business model by the way, but the guy who came up with it seems to be doing pretty well.

If you think someone that has never worked before and has difficulty writing and reading can hit the floor in all positions and be worth 15.00 per hour out of the gate, your in some kind of pot induced utopia.

[TC Talks]

They made that similar argument each time the minimum wage was raised. I don't see the good companies going out of business. BTW it's already law in Seattle, besides gripping, the sky has not fallen. Business adjusts or dies.