Trump Instant Commie Karma

[audiophile]

The CIA data was hyped, for sure, back then! Now - probably hyped again.

Having or not having WMD wasn't the only point - they got the inspectors in there inspecting things as they wanted, then they told them get out they as getting ready to bomb.

They would have known what they had, if the inspectors finished!

This is I never want another Bush in office, ever.

[Deleted User 8570]

You call the CIA proof? Were they not the ones, among others, who said there were WMDS? Yea, real reliable folk there.

I didn't even mention the Central Idiot Agency... nor the Federal Beureau of Imbeciles.

[screen glare]

Vlad-the-Invader and his team wanted Trump "in there" because Vlad and his comrades want to see the breaking apart of NATO and the west in general - so that Russia becomes THE preeminent world power...and Vlad - Mr. Big.

And as Trump already signaled during his campaign he has NO PROBLEM threatening to disrespect the NATO alliance - including the all-important promises of mutual defense.

To help accomplish this Vlad wants a US president who is easy to manipulate. Not an experienced tough dame who sees through him and will stand in his way, nor an intellectual who sees through him and refuses to engage. He doesn't have any way to manipulate those folks. He can needle 'em - but he can't get them to do exactly what he wants.

On the other hand - Trump is uncomplicated, predictable. Vlad knows vanity and love-of-money-and-what-it-can-buy drive The Donald. And Vlad also knows Trump can't help it because he is forever ill with NPD. So ... get President Puppet elected and - Voila! Instant short cut to your world goals!! Trump is THE dream come true for Mr. Putin.

[audiophile]

At least your THEORY has a bit more logic than others I have heard.

I joked during the primary, that you just need to show up with a bunch of beautiful woman

PS I was very disturbed about Trump's knocking of NATO back then.

[Bryce]

Wow. I remember a debate around four years ago when a particular presidential candidate was mocked by the left, and even Obama himself, for stating that Russia was a major geo-political threat. I guess the left now thinks old Mitt was right and as usual Obama and themselves were wrong.

[Deleted User 8570]

Wow. I remember a debate around four years ago when a particular presidential candidate was mocked by the left, and even Obama himself, for stating that Russia was a major geo-political threat. I guess the left now thinks old Mitt was right and as usual Obama and themselves were wrong.

Much has changed in 4 years my friend...

[Bryce]

Wow. I remember a debate around four years ago when a particular presidential candidate was mocked by the left, and even Obama himself, for stating that Russia was a major geo-political threat. I guess the left now thinks old Mitt was right and as usual Obama and themselves were wrong.

Much has changed in 4 years my friend...

Mitt saw it coming. Obama didn't.

[Deleted User 8570]

Wow. I remember a debate around four years ago when a particular presidential candidate was mocked by the left, and even Obama himself, for stating that Russia was a major geo-political threat. I guess the left now thinks old Mitt was right and as usual Obama and themselves were wrong.

Much has changed in 4 years my friend...

Mitt saw it coming. Obama didn't.

Fine. Not much of a point but I don't feel like arguing with you on 3 hours sleep so you get a point.

[audiophile]

Wow. I remember a debate around four years ago when a particular presidential candidate was mocked by the left, and even Obama himself, for stating that Russia was a major geo-political threat. I guess the left now thinks old Mitt was right and as usual Obama and themselves were wrong.

Much has changed in 4 years my friend...

Mitt saw it coming. Obama didn't.

The Clinton machine is working overtime for 2020 re-match. Remember they did that in AR.

They have to blame it one someone. Russians did it!!!!

[Deleted User 8570]

Wow. I remember a debate around four years ago when a particular presidential candidate was mocked by the left, and even Obama himself, for stating that Russia was a major geo-political threat. I guess the left now thinks old Mitt was right and as usual Obama and themselves were wrong.

Much has changed in 4 years my friend...

Mitt saw it coming. Obama didn't.

The Clinton machine is working overtime for 2020 re-match. Remember they did that in AR.

They have to blame it one someone. Russians did it!!!!

They won't do a rematch.

[screen glare]

The Russians DID do it. And Vlad lead the effort.

And the entire final purpose was to get Donald Trump elected president of the US and leader of the free world. The guy Putin knows he can easily manipulate.

Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Green Party, Tea Party, Libertarians, and every other political party and political identity group in the US had ALL better get their heads out of their asses and agree that an organized "secret" campaign by a foreign government meant to taint our sacred free election system and get one candidate elected over another is tantamount to a declaration of war against our country.

First WWII, then the Soviet/US "Cold War", and now the Russians waging a Cyber War against one of the foundational pillars of our constitution and American way of life and hard won liberties.

This cyber invasion and dangerous disrespectful intervention goes WAY BEYOND petty political parlour games we Americans all enjoy playing with each other during and after each national election - all the debating of issues, political cartoons, newspaper editorials, campaigning, conventions, etc. No, this crosses a line that every single American needs to defend.

Putin and the Russian government must suffer severe consequences for their unprecedented interference in our national election. Forget Clinton vs. Trump. This larger issue supercedes presidential politics. Now is the time for both red and blue patriots to come to the aid of our country.

[Bryce]

So tell me, what was done when an iconic American politician ASKED the KGB/Soviet Union to interfere with an American election? I'll tell you. Absolutely NOTHING.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-ke ... inson.html

[Turkeytop]

So I'm losing track of where this thread is going.

Are we saying that the hacking didn't occur, that it's only fake news?

Or, there was hacking, but not by the Russians?

Or the Russians committed the hacking, but that's a good thing?

[Bryce]

Here's my take:

Someone, maybe the Russian's, maybe not, hacked or gained access to DNC and John Podesta e-mails. Some damaging information was released. But, the way it's being presented in the media and by the alt-left, people that only pay attention to sound bites and head lines or, get their news from Comedy Central, are under the impression that Russia actually hacked our voting machines. That didn't happen. THAT is certainly the fake news part.

[Turkeytop]

that Russia actually hacked our voting machines. That didn't happen. THAT is certainly the fake news part.

I've been following the news on this issue. I've never heard that allegation being made and it has never been my understanding of the story.


BTW I never feel a lot of sympathy for the victims of hacking. They've made themselves vulnerable. And I have to confess a certain amount of admiration for the skills of the hacker.


Hillary, of all people, ought to have known the risks involved in using unsecured e mail. When will she learn?