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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Honeyman » Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:06 am

The Jewish Resource Center is not pressing charges, saying the religion is based in forgiveness. Good for them, especially if there is not a direct threat to life. It's quite generous of the center and reflects positively on their lived values. But that doesn't absolve the university for action. And it's quite odd on a campus like Michigan and in a community like Ann Arbor that this wouldn't get more attention as an example and point of learning given the rise of antisemitism in our country.

There also was a Michigan female lacrosse player who also participated in the vandalism, but is so far only suspended and not kicked off her team.


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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Matt » Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:25 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:06 am
The Jewish Resource Center is not pressing charges, saying the religion is based in forgiveness. Good for them, especially if there is not a direct threat to life. It's quite generous of the center and reflects positively on their lived values. But that doesn't absolve the university for action. And it's quite odd on a campus like Michigan and in a community like Ann Arbor that this wouldn't get more attention as an example and point of learning given the rise of antisemitism in our country.

There also was a Michigan female lacrosse player who also participated in the vandalism, but is so far only suspended and not kicked off her team.
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by MWmetalhead » Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:30 pm

It's good that the university has held the students involved accountable and has denounced the act of hate speech.

Still would love to know why channel 62 changed its report on the matter. Did someone twist their arm? Internal decision solely?
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Honeyman » Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:44 pm

Freep reporting it now: https://www.freep.com/story/sports/univ ... 042840007/

Kinda surprised he played defense. Sure seems like he would be a perfect right winger.
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by MWmetalhead » Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:36 pm

Kudos to the Free Press for reporting on the matter!
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Rate This » Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 pm

Matt wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:17 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:25 am
The media have zero obligation under FERPA laws.

Educational institutions cannot disclose such info in an unauthorized manner and must take prudent measures to protect such info. CBS Detroit is not an institution of higher learning.

Student disciplinary records aside, the media have every right to disclose the identity of the perpetrators of a crime. The fact an alleged criminal is a college student does not shield such (alleged) perpetrator from ID disclosure.

There was a traffic and firearm possession incident involving a football player late last year (Mazi Smith) that was very widely reported. His name was very broadly communicated in news reports.

When swastikas are placed on Jewish houses of worship or cultural centers, the media often cover the story extensively. Seems like the U-M athletic department is being given preferential treatment here.
It's not as black and white as you are making it out to be. The individual that was unethically named is just a regular student now and, unless I've missed it, no criminal charges have been filed. How were the identities discovered? Was it U-M cameras? Was it the result of a U-M DPSS investigation?
Don’t want to be named? Don’t act like a hoodlum and spray paint things that don’t belong to you. If this was an MSU student you’d be asking what they are hiding if they didn’t say his name. Instead you’re finding what little defensible position the kid has and latching on. How classy.

That U of M statement is pure boilerplate PR… what other choice did they have exactly but to say that?

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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Matt » Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:00 pm

Rate This wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 pm
Matt wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:17 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:25 am
The media have zero obligation under FERPA laws.

Educational institutions cannot disclose such info in an unauthorized manner and must take prudent measures to protect such info. CBS Detroit is not an institution of higher learning.

Student disciplinary records aside, the media have every right to disclose the identity of the perpetrators of a crime. The fact an alleged criminal is a college student does not shield such (alleged) perpetrator from ID disclosure.

There was a traffic and firearm possession incident involving a football player late last year (Mazi Smith) that was very widely reported. His name was very broadly communicated in news reports.

When swastikas are placed on Jewish houses of worship or cultural centers, the media often cover the story extensively. Seems like the U-M athletic department is being given preferential treatment here.
It's not as black and white as you are making it out to be. The individual that was unethically named is just a regular student now and, unless I've missed it, no criminal charges have been filed. How were the identities discovered? Was it U-M cameras? Was it the result of a U-M DPSS investigation?
Don’t want to be named? Don’t act like a hoodlum and spray paint things that don’t belong to you. If this was an MSU student you’d be asking what they are hiding if they didn’t say his name. Instead you’re finding what little defensible position the kid has and latching on. How classy.

That U of M statement is pure boilerplate PR… what other choice did they have exactly but to say that?
Ugh, this has NOTHING to do with sports. An individual (or two) made a major, despicable mistake. The rest of the world has no fucking business in determining the academic future of the individual(s) involved.
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by MWmetalhead » Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:27 pm

It should be noted Ono's statement was issued August 23.

I see nothing wrong with the content or timing of his statement.
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Rate This » Tue Oct 03, 2023 7:57 pm

Matt wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:00 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:51 pm
Matt wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:17 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:25 am
The media have zero obligation under FERPA laws.

Educational institutions cannot disclose such info in an unauthorized manner and must take prudent measures to protect such info. CBS Detroit is not an institution of higher learning.

Student disciplinary records aside, the media have every right to disclose the identity of the perpetrators of a crime. The fact an alleged criminal is a college student does not shield such (alleged) perpetrator from ID disclosure.

There was a traffic and firearm possession incident involving a football player late last year (Mazi Smith) that was very widely reported. His name was very broadly communicated in news reports.

When swastikas are placed on Jewish houses of worship or cultural centers, the media often cover the story extensively. Seems like the U-M athletic department is being given preferential treatment here.
It's not as black and white as you are making it out to be. The individual that was unethically named is just a regular student now and, unless I've missed it, no criminal charges have been filed. How were the identities discovered? Was it U-M cameras? Was it the result of a U-M DPSS investigation?
Don’t want to be named? Don’t act like a hoodlum and spray paint things that don’t belong to you. If this was an MSU student you’d be asking what they are hiding if they didn’t say his name. Instead you’re finding what little defensible position the kid has and latching on. How classy.

That U of M statement is pure boilerplate PR… what other choice did they have exactly but to say that?
Ugh, this has NOTHING to do with sports. An individual (or two) made a major, despicable mistake. The rest of the world has no fucking business in determining the academic future of the individual(s) involved.
And it wouldn’t… but being a student somewhere doesn’t give anybody a pass from it being reported. If it did then everybody should get a pass because everybody has a role doing something somewhere that could be at stake. Singling out this one thing as ostensibly off limits for coverage is patently absurd.

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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:57 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:30 pm
It's good that the university has held the students involved accountable and has denounced the act of hate speech.

Still would love to know why channel 62 changed its report on the matter. Did someone twist their arm? Internal decision solely?
If they had a detail wrong, they didn’t want to be on the hook for libel.

Note: I am not justifying the actions of the vandals. The shit stains should be kicked off the team and charged with ethnic intimidation.
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Robert Faygo » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:09 pm

The Michigan Daily appears to have done a good job at separating fact from fiction and highlighting a lot more information than I've seen in the MSM to date.

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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by MWmetalhead » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:19 pm

Excellent article; thanks for the info.
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Re: Donovan Edwards retweets anti-semetic garbage

Post by Honeyman » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:50 pm

Very good article. Amazing how the Michigan Daily consistently out-reports the freep and News on issues.

However, I will rebut the whole "Jews believe in forgiveness" crap. My late Jewish mother held shit I did over my head for decades!
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