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Michigan sign stealing scandal

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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Matt » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:13 am

Stapleton is definitely involved somehow. He's a big Ron English and Brady Hoke guy, who somehow thought Hoke was moving in the right direction despite progressively worse records each year. His diatribe toward JUB's SUGGESTION that he was involved skips an actual denial of what JUB suggested. The Vikings piece is interesting, more so now than at the time, as the NCAA inquiry into the cheeseburger bullshit was a primary driver in that dalliance. Additionally, Stapleton references the clown Crawford that broke NCAA rules by publicly commenting on the cheeseburger investigation.


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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Honeyman » Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:29 pm

Bacon is the pompous fuck who wrote the book praising the rape enabler, right? Obviously an objective man of high character.
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Mega Hertz » Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:47 pm

Here's the problem I'm having with all this info.

It has been said that this Stalions kid is some kind of rogue psycho, but also says that he's ingrained with the coaching staff.

That he's purchasing tickets with his own money, but in the NAME of Michigan football.

That nobody knows who he is, but he's pictured on the sidelines at Michigan games.

One report says 2015. A other says 2021. Another says he didn't join the ranks until 2022.

One report says nobody had any idea, another says TCU got a call about it because the B1G knew about it.

Everybody does it, or nobody does it?

Is it a norm? Or a law? Or a bylaw?

You guys all know how I feel about "Well Timmy does it, too". That's not a good defense. And yes, opposing teams should be mixing up their signals.

I'm still out on this. It's why I'm so weary about all the Trump troubles. "Sources say", "We are hearing", "people are saying" doesn't mean shit. Until there's an actual conviction, or in this case, a smoking gun, I'm still with the Wolverines.
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by craig11152 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:35 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:29 pm
Bacon is the pompous fuck who wrote the book praising the rape enabler, right? Obviously an objective man of high character.
When did he write the book you reference? 2007?
When did news of the Robert Anderson scandal become public knowledge?
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Honeyman » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:56 pm

craig11152 wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:35 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:29 pm
Bacon is the pompous fuck who wrote the book praising the rape enabler, right? Obviously an objective man of high character.
When did he write the book you reference? 2007?
When did news of the Robert Anderson scandal become public knowledge?
Has he retracted anything he has written since the scandal became public knowledge? Published any addendum to his books high praise of the rape enabler?
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by MasterB » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:27 am

Easy for the NCAA to stop sign stealing do what the NFL does and get the signs from the helmet to the QB. Jim Stapleton could be charged in Minn as it is illegal to blackball someone in the state and Jim Harbaugh could sue him. Which Stapleton is a rat and I hope the NFL removes and forces him to sell his stake in the Vikings.
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by tigerwings » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:01 pm

Stealing signs in-game would be useful, but teams know that televised games and game film are use an advantage, Most would change every game, if not at halftime. Info from week old games would be useless. Advance scouting is still off limits.

Most have 3 people giving signs, the one giving live signals should change each drive. A team not changing it up is asking for it.

The TV games yesterday seemed to avoid any shots when signals were given.
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Honeyman » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm

The censorship king from out of state.

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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Matt » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:23 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Interesting....

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim ... g-21d5e1b6
Not really - you'd have to be pretty dense to think U-M would make the move to extend at this very moment.

https://michigan.rivals.com/news/what-w ... -situation
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Matt » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:31 pm

I've edited the previous post twice, so I decided it made sense to do a new post with Regent Acker's tweets (or whatever the fuck they're called these days):

https://twitter.com/JordanAckerMI/statu ... 4IOMg&s=19

https://twitter.com/JordanAckerMI/statu ... dFmzw&s=19
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Rate This » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:10 pm

Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:23 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Interesting....

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim ... g-21d5e1b6
Not really - you'd have to be pretty dense to think U-M would make the move to extend at this very moment.

https://michigan.rivals.com/news/what-w ... -situation
Just remember… any media story right now will be refuted by you. Apparently there were talks, this came out and poof no more talks. Depending on the outcome they may not extend at all.

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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Matt » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:26 pm

Rate This wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:10 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:23 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Interesting....

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim ... g-21d5e1b6
Not really - you'd have to be pretty dense to think U-M would make the move to extend at this very moment.

https://michigan.rivals.com/news/what-w ... -situation
Just remember… any media story right now will be refuted by you. Apparently there were talks, this came out and poof no more talks. Depending on the outcome they may not extend at all.
There hasn't been much in the way of actual news, just a one-sided hit job. JUB is saying the WSJ report is inaccurate btw.
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Honeyman » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:34 pm

Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:26 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:10 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:23 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Interesting....

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim ... g-21d5e1b6
Not really - you'd have to be pretty dense to think U-M would make the move to extend at this very moment.

https://michigan.rivals.com/news/what-w ... -situation
Just remember… any media story right now will be refuted by you. Apparently there were talks, this came out and poof no more talks. Depending on the outcome they may not extend at all.
There hasn't been much in the way of actual news, just a one-sided hit job. JUB is saying the WSJ report is inaccurate btw.
So John U. Bacon is a more trusted source than the Wall Street Journal?
The censorship king from out of state.

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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Matt » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:42 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:34 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:26 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:10 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:23 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Interesting....

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim ... g-21d5e1b6
Not really - you'd have to be pretty dense to think U-M would make the move to extend at this very moment.

https://michigan.rivals.com/news/what-w ... -situation
Just remember… any media story right now will be refuted by you. Apparently there were talks, this came out and poof no more talks. Depending on the outcome they may not extend at all.
There hasn't been much in the way of actual news, just a one-sided hit job. JUB is saying the WSJ report is inaccurate btw.
So John U. Bacon is a more trusted source than the Wall Street Journal?
In this case, it appears so.
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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal

Post by Honeyman » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:47 pm

Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:42 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:34 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:26 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:10 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:23 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Interesting....

https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim ... g-21d5e1b6
Not really - you'd have to be pretty dense to think U-M would make the move to extend at this very moment.

https://michigan.rivals.com/news/what-w ... -situation
Just remember… any media story right now will be refuted by you. Apparently there were talks, this came out and poof no more talks. Depending on the outcome they may not extend at all.
There hasn't been much in the way of actual news, just a one-sided hit job. JUB is saying the WSJ report is inaccurate btw.
So John U. Bacon is a more trusted source than the Wall Street Journal?
In this case, it appears so.
Not to the Detroit News, Free Press, or Michigan Daily since they are all citing the WSJ report.
The censorship king from out of state.

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