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Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:16 am
by Honeyman
MasterB wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:58 am
Graham Wellington wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:31 pm
Congrats to Michigan on 1000 wins. Just think, they'll get to do it again in a couple years.
Vacating wins is meaningless I'll count win 1,000 even if the NCAA takes away wins when they were on video and TV can't deny they never happen. Plus the fans have the championship T-shirts & caps and other merch.
Do you still count the wins from the Fab Four scandal that were vacated? Even the university took those banners down due to the cheating.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:34 am
by Matt
Honeyman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:07 am
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:42 am
If it weren't for dipshit Partridge interfering with the NCAA investigation, Harbaugh most likely would be on the sidelines for The Game.
U-M likely would've succeeded in negotiating Harbaugh's suspension down to two games.
So you actually think this is it?!? That there are no other coaches tied to Stalions or no further information that will be uncovered?
Partridge wasn't fired for being "tied to Stalions". He was fired for interfering with the investigation.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:39 am
by Honeyman
Matt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:34 am
Honeyman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:07 am
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:42 am
If it weren't for dipshit Partridge interfering with the NCAA investigation, Harbaugh most likely would be on the sidelines for The Game.
U-M likely would've succeeded in negotiating Harbaugh's suspension down to two games.
So you actually think this is it?!? That there are no other coaches tied to Stalions or no further information that will be uncovered?
Partridge wasn't fired for being "tied to Stalions". He was fired for interfering with the investigation.
Semantics. The investigation was about Stalionsm
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:20 pm
by Honeyman
Not sure I believe any of this, but the guy that fed me this info, says that there is more to come down this week, including another Michigan coach to be canned by Tuesday.
Lots of good juicy tidbits in the eleven warriors forum from today...
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/co ... andal-xcii
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/co ... ndal-xciii
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/co ... andal-xciv
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:41 pm
by Matt
Critical question: how do ohio state connected individuals know so much? It's almost like this investigation started with them...
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:57 pm
by Rate This
Matt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:41 pm
Critical question: how do ohio state connected individuals know so much? It's almost like this investigation started with them...
They aren’t spending all their time trying to find excuses that exonerate U of M for starters.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:38 pm
by Honeyman
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:27 am
by Matt
Both are true in terms of the methodology. He was an aspiring football coach who went all in.
It's just a shame Connor was unable to decode the Tug's Thugs attack after the game.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:28 am
by Matt
Rate This wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:57 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:41 pm
Critical question: how do ohio state connected individuals know so much? It's almost like this investigation started with them...
They aren’t spending all their time trying to find excuses that exonerate U of M for starters.
Wrong. The investigation that illegally accessed U-M's IT systems was initiated by ohio state associated sources.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:55 am
by Rate This
Matt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:28 am
Rate This wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:57 pm
Matt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:41 pm
Critical question: how do ohio state connected individuals know so much? It's almost like this investigation started with them...
They aren’t spending all their time trying to find excuses that exonerate U of M for starters.
Wrong. The investigation that illegally accessed U-M's IT systems was initiated by ohio state associated sources.
At least you’re dedicated.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 am
by bmw
Matt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:27 am
It's just a shame Connor was unable to decode the Tug's Thugs attack after the game.
Now there's a deflection if ever I saw one. Those "thugs" were dealt with accordingly, including suspensions and criminal charges.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:45 am
by Honeyman
The video shows that the usual workflow on a defensive down is from analyst Stalions to the signaler to the players - that is perfectly legal.
But when MSU changed up the play, there wasn't enough time and he circumvented it, signaling directly to the players. I'm sure everyone knew that's against the rules for an analyst, but hey, it's 3rd down in a 1 possession game against your rival who has beaten you 2 years in a row. That's an occasion where it is worth it to break the rules and hope you don't get caught.
We saw that exact same thing in a clip from last year's OSU game too.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:50 am
by Honeyman
bmw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 am
Matt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:27 am
It's just a shame Connor was unable to decode the Tug's Thugs attack after the game.
Now there's a deflection if ever I saw one. Those "thugs" were dealt with accordingly, including suspensions and criminal charges.
LOL...it's Matt. He will scream about "due process" for his boys, but go back to the tunnel thread and see how he wanted to shut down the entire MSU football program minutes after this event happened.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:56 am
by Matt
bmw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 am
Matt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:27 am
It's just a shame Connor was unable to decode the Tug's Thugs attack after the game.
Now there's a deflection if ever I saw one. Those "thugs" were dealt with accordingly, including suspensions and criminal charges.
We're told that knowing plays endangers player safety, so much so that our institution is punished by having to play 3 games without our head coach. Getting swung at with a helmet is actually endangering player safety and yet no similar suspension. Stealing signs isn't against the rules - advance scouting is, but only for economic reasons. Oh wait, taking phone videos is bad, but actual coaches from Rutgers and ohio state providing advanced scouting to Purdue is just fine.
Re: Michigan sign stealing scandal
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:18 am
by Honeyman
Matt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:56 am
bmw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:32 am
Matt wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:27 am
It's just a shame Connor was unable to decode the Tug's Thugs attack after the game.
Now there's a deflection if ever I saw one. Those "thugs" were dealt with accordingly, including suspensions and criminal charges.
We're told that knowing plays endangers player safety, so much so that our institution is punished by having to play 3 games without our head coach. Getting swung at with a helmet is actually endangering player safety and yet no similar suspension.
Crump who swung the helmet got a charge of felonious assault and was suspended 8 games, and never returned to the team. Michigan State players Jacoby Windmon, Angelo Grose, Justin White, Itayvion Brown, Brandon Wright and Zion Young were each charged with aggravated assault — a misdemeanor. Each of the above players missed the final four games of the 2022 season.