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Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:21 pm
by Matt
The Appling/Payne gang rape along with the tunnel incident are completely relevant here as you've absolved msu of any crimes in either matter. On the flip side, you've decided that Jim Harbaugh definitely lied to the NCAA despite the fact that he's denied it and there is no proof on the NCAA's side.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:43 pm
by Rate This
Matt wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:21 pm
The Appling/Payne gang rape along with the tunnel incident are completely relevant here as you've absolved msu of any crimes in either matter. On the flip side, you've decided that Jim Harbaugh definitely lied to the NCAA despite the fact that he's denied it and there is no proof on the NCAA's side.
Why not just let the NCAA announce its closed in a few weeks with no sanctions then?

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:47 pm
by Rate This
Matt wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:20 am
It looks like the level 1 violation is bullshit:
Additionally, it is generally challenging to prove someone knowingly lied without detailed contemporaneous evidence, which sources say the NCAA either lacks or simply doesn't exist.

The NCAA could back off its attempt to gather that admission and resolve the case otherwise, however it has made no indication that it will do that. An NCAA punishment, even a short suspension, on the Level II violations without any admission of lying might be acceptable to Harbaugh. Anything involving admitting dishonesty would not, sources said.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-resolu ... 22831.html
That also says neither party is backing down from their position and a penalty for a level 1 violation is a 6 game suspension and severe recruiting sanctions. So you cherrypicked big time here.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:06 pm
by MWmetalhead

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:24 pm
by Honeyman
MWmetalhead wrote:
Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:06 pm
Warde shitcanned Matt Weiss today:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sport ... 826672007/
Whatever he did had to be really bad for Michigan to fire him. Think of all the incidents that have gone without any discipline at all there for decades. You got fired from Michigan for your conduct? That's like getting kicked out of prison.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:04 pm
by MWmetalhead
The fact multiple cops showed up at his house earlier in the week was a tell tale sign to me that whatever infraction he allegedly committed on campus involving information technology was potentially serious in nature.

I have a feeling this story is nowhere near over.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:45 am
by craig11152
MWmetalhead wrote:
Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:04 pm
The fact multiple cops showed up at his house earlier in the week was a tell tale sign to me that whatever infraction he allegedly committed on campus involving information technology was potentially serious in nature.

I have a feeling this story is nowhere near over.
The number of cops could possibly just mean expediting a search warrant process. 6 cops are 3 times as fast as 2 cops. An hour versus 3 hours.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:21 pm
by MWmetalhead
Since when does a computer crime supposedly committed on campus require a search of one's personal residence? We're all missing a big piece of the puzzle, I suspect.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:06 pm
by craig11152
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:21 pm
Since when does a computer crime supposedly committed on campus require a search of one's personal residence? We're all missing a big piece of the puzzle, I suspect.
No idea. I'm just saying a bunch of cops says search warrant, arrest warrant for violent suspect or ...... ?

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:12 pm
by Matt
craig11152 wrote:
Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:06 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:21 pm
Since when does a computer crime supposedly committed on campus require a search of one's personal residence? We're all missing a big piece of the puzzle, I suspect.
No idea. I'm just saying a bunch of cops says search warrant, arrest warrant for violent suspect or ...... ?
I've definitely heard that there are no federal issues. What I haven't heard is if AAPD was involved or if it was just U-M DPSS. It seems reasonable that U-M DPSS didn't have jurisdiction in the residential area where Weiss lives - it is possible the search consisted of a split of AAPD and U-M DPSS.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:21 pm
by MotorCityRadioFreak
As others have said, there seems like a lot more to this story. I also think we haven’t heard the end of this.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:35 pm
by Matt
It's worth noting that Weiss' tweet from yesterday strongly suggested that he knew he fucked up.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:23 pm
by Honeyman
Matt wrote:
Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:35 pm
It's worth noting that Weiss' tweet from yesterday strongly suggested that he knew he fucked up.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Ya' think?!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:51 am
by craig11152
Matt wrote:
Sat Jan 21, 2023 8:12 pm
. What I haven't heard is if AAPD was involved or if it was just U-M DPSS. It seems reasonable that U-M DPSS didn't have jurisdiction in the residential area where Weiss lives - it is possible the search consisted of a split of AAPD and U-M DPSS.
Just an observation but interjurisdictional agreements can and do exist. I am 99% sure one exists between EMU and the City of Ypsilanti.
No idea if UM and AAPD have one.

Re: Michigan football hit with NCAA violations

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:45 pm
by Mike