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Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:37 pm
by TC Talks
I remember when football was a game not a series of technicalities and complaints. It's getting worse than basketball.

Here, cleanse your soul with a real game played by men not their lawyers:
https://youtu.be/WHLc79dOzac?si=-ZMArmcES_y7tp1v

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
by Honeyman
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.


For the second time this year, Michigan's Jim Harbaugh is in a snit with the NCAA for potential rules violations that were petty, avoidable and ultimately quite stupid if they indeed took place.
Dan Wolken
USA TODAY


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm
by Matt
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
Oof, that's an embarrassingly bad column.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm
by Honeyman
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
Oof, that's an embarrassingly bad column.
Dan Wolken is a very respected NCAA journalist. Is he lying? Have a vendetta?

I understand you believe Jim Harbaugh is God-like, but is there nothing that can sway you, despite the many allegations and past occurances, that maybe he is a little bit shady? Or it's all bullshit?

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:24 pm
by Matt
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
Oof, that's an embarrassingly bad column.
Dan Wolken is a very respected NCAA journalist. Is he lying? Have a vendetta?

I understand you believe Jim Harbaugh is God-like, but is there nothing that can sway you, despite the many allegations and past occurances, that maybe he is a little bit shady? Or it's all bullshit?
It's a lazy column. It came out before Harbaugh's strong statement denying Greg Schiano's claim (allegedly) that Michigan was stealing signals. First off, the assertion that there's an easy way to steal signs and that Michigan did it for FUCKING RUTGERS is patently absurd. They must have only stolen second half signals because the first half was a shit sandwich. Signs/signals are changed frequently and there are decoy signals.

Secondly, the Brown Jug cheeseburger story is comical - these two things hardly count as "many allegations." The NCAA has a burr up his ass because Harbaugh has vocally challenged its status quo, especially with the transfer rule. You should be happy that Harbaugh's advocacy got your school a generational talent for one year...

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:29 pm
by Graham Wellington
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
Oof, that's an embarrassingly bad column.
Dan Wolken is a very respected NCAA journalist. Is he lying? Have a vendetta?

I understand you believe Jim Harbaugh is God-like, but is there nothing that can sway you, despite the many allegations and past occurances, that maybe he is a little bit shady? Or it's all bullshit?
This is the university that still honors a rape enabler. Of course they will justify and blow off cheating charges. Multiple times.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:30 pm
by Deleted User 9015
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:24 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
Oof, that's an embarrassingly bad column.
Dan Wolken is a very respected NCAA journalist. Is he lying? Have a vendetta?

I understand you believe Jim Harbaugh is God-like, but is there nothing that can sway you, despite the many allegations and past occurances, that maybe he is a little bit shady? Or it's all bullshit?
It's a lazy column. It came out before Harbaugh's strong statement denying Greg Schiano's claim (allegedly) that Michigan was stealing signals. First off, the assertion that there's an easy way to steal signs and that Michigan did it for FUCKING RUTGERS is patently absurd. They must have only stolen second half signals because the first half was a shit sandwich. Signs/signals are changed frequently and there are decoy signals.

Secondly, the Brown Jug cheeseburger story is comical - these two things hardly count as "many allegations." The NCAA has a burr up his ass because Harbaugh has vocally challenged its status quo, especially with the transfer rule. You should be happy that Harbaugh's advocacy got your school a generational talent for one year...
I wouldn't call Tugger's multitasking phone calls a generational talent :lol:

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:35 am
by MasterB
Michigan & Jim Harbaugh should sue the NCAA as they can't back up any of their claims which are without merit. NCAA just doesn't like Jim and always lie about him which isn't right Michigan & Jim would have a good case on the NCAA if they sued them, I know that isn't going to happen. I hope both Michigan and Jim are assholes to NCAA when they speak to them.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:42 am
by MotorCityRadioFreak
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.


For the second time this year, Michigan's Jim Harbaugh is in a snit with the NCAA for potential rules violations that were petty, avoidable and ultimately quite stupid if they indeed took place.
Dan Wolken
USA TODAY


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
They are BS rules. Sign stealing should not be illegal nor should scouting. They are threatened by Michigan's success. They have to protect the SEC.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:29 am
by Matt
Neckbeard wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:30 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:24 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:34 pm
Jim Harbaugh popped again for alleged cheating. It's time to drop the self-righteous act.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/c ... 243231007/
Oof, that's an embarrassingly bad column.
Dan Wolken is a very respected NCAA journalist. Is he lying? Have a vendetta?

I understand you believe Jim Harbaugh is God-like, but is there nothing that can sway you, despite the many allegations and past occurances, that maybe he is a little bit shady? Or it's all bullshit?
It's a lazy column. It came out before Harbaugh's strong statement denying Greg Schiano's claim (allegedly) that Michigan was stealing signals. First off, the assertion that there's an easy way to steal signs and that Michigan did it for FUCKING RUTGERS is patently absurd. They must have only stolen second half signals because the first half was a shit sandwich. Signs/signals are changed frequently and there are decoy signals.

Secondly, the Brown Jug cheeseburger story is comical - these two things hardly count as "many allegations." The NCAA has a burr up his ass because Harbaugh has vocally challenged its status quo, especially with the transfer rule. You should be happy that Harbaugh's advocacy got your school a generational talent for one year...
I wouldn't call Tugger's multitasking phone calls a generational talent :lol:
:lol:

Tugger is a LEGEND in the DIY handjob scene, although some are suggesting that he might have overpaid.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:25 am
by Matt
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/ ... 218435115/

Sam Webb suggests and provides receipts that Ryan Day is the complainant and Schiano is not involved.

In the interest of transparency, ESPN has an article about the analyst at the center of the investigation, including some absurd comment from a "brave, anonymous" B1G source: https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ources-say

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:25 am
by Rate This
Matt wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:25 am
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/ ... 218435115/

Sam Webb suggests and provides receipts that Ryan Day is the complainant and Schiano is not involved.

In the interest of transparency, ESPN has an article about the analyst at the center of the investigation, including some absurd comment from a "brave, anonymous" B1G source: https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ources-say
Of course if they were able to steal signs and use that to their advantage and it helped them… we should see teams score more points on them going forward assuming it stops. They may not be as good as they look if this is true and we already know they’ll get squished like a bug in a playoff but beyond that… championship here we come. And it had better be considering next year… we could easily be a 3 or 4 loss team in 24.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:12 am
by Honeyman

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:21 am
by Honeyman
So going forward, Michigan maintains an unfair advantage. All future opponents will have to put in extra time learning new signals or systems of signals. They'll use more wristbands, scripted drives, and they'll run players in and out more often with the plays. On offense, that's a H*** disadvantage as it gives the defense the right to take their time substituting and getting their personnel right. It's a clear advantage that UM will enjoy due to ther being caught cheating.

Re: MSU vs. UM predictions

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:42 am
by Matt
Pretty good summary: https://mgoblog.com/content/i-got-your-sign

HM doesn't even truly believe the nonsense he typed...