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Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by zzand » Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:03 am

I get 30 on the highway and 27 in city. About the same as the Charger I traded in. Of course they both have the same engine and about the same weight.



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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by Rate This » Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:50 am

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My Grand Cherokee is just fine thank you. If they are so bad why are there more Jeeps on the road than just about anything else?
Because of the brand name. But I see more of them dead on the side of the road than anything else, especially the less expensive ones. They also use substandard designs and materials throughout. The number one reason? It’s a Chrysler.



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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by zzand » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:01 am

Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.



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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by Rate This » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:25 am

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Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
Perhaps… but for whatever it’s worth they tend to be Patriots, compasses, liberty’s and cherokees. I do see a sizable number of Grand Cherokee’s and one wagoneer which was a head scratcher to see abandoned already.



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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by zzand » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:34 am

The models you mentioned all have one thing in common, they have the 4 banger as standard and that is a well known bad engine. The Pentasatar 6 and Hemi are good engines. Believe it or not I understand the Wagoneer, first model year of any model from any company is always a crap shoot.



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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by audiophile » Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:51 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
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The Ford Maverick and Ford Escape hybrids are now being recalled due to engine fire risk:

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 294086007/
Better stick with 5L or 2.7L F-150.


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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by audiophile » Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:53 pm

zzand wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:01 am
Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
My Co-worker has had good luck with Dodge/Chrysler stuff.


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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by audiophile » Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:57 pm

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My oldest daughter has always been faithful to Ford, until her last purchase. She drives a Fusion, getting rid of it as soon as it becomes more affordable to buy. At one point she had 6 outstanding recalls on it. My favorite was the steering wheel could come off in your hands. She is planning on going with Honda as she already has one of their mini vans and it has been trouble free.
1.5L is an engineering disaster (2014-2019)!


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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:38 pm

The cheap Jeep models with Fiat parts (Renegade; Compass) are the ones to avoid like the plague. The Wrangler is also unreliable, but obviously that vehicle has a very specific use case.

I'd definitely pick a Grand Cherokee over an Explorer right now.



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Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering

Post by TC Talks » Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:39 pm

Rate This wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:25 am
zzand wrote:
Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:01 am
Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
Perhaps… but for whatever it’s worth they tend to be Patriots, compasses, liberty’s and cherokees. I do see a sizable number of Grand Cherokee’s and one wagoneer which was a head scratcher to see abandoned already.
Chrysler is out performing Ford on quality by a mile right now.

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