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Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by km1125 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:31 am

tapeisrolling wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:54 pm
You don't think of Kentucky as being in 'Tornado Alley' but the climate is changing and we are not ready for some of the changes like..
https://unsungscience.com/news/tornado- ... not-ready/
The 'alley' is moving and the numbers don't lie. It falls on the local and State building codes to come to grips with the safety of workers.
Climate had been changing forever. WE just picked a particular section of time to define what "tornado alley" was.



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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:37 pm

The lower Ohio and mid-MS valleys are definitely part of the modern day tornado alley. Paducah, Cape Girardeau, Louisville, Nashville and Memphis see plenty of tornadic activity. Illinois is a very tornado prone state and has been for decades.



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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:22 pm

At GM and DTE, we had an area leaderon the floor who was responsible for first aid knowledge, AED training, fire drill, and weather safety alertness. This isn't rocket science.


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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by RayQix » Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:20 am

Second what MCRF stated here…. As I was part of that Emergency Workgroup Coordinator volunteer group. That means “the alarms go off for tornado or fire/hazard, you get people moving so people don’t get hurt/killed.”

We had training for that role, and have annual training to keep up on situations like Active Shooter (run/hide/fight) and have a mindset that we need to be aware of safety at all times.

Not sure Amazon had that but one thing that comes to mind is that they *should* have had some plan in place for it.

Modern day site workers deserve this and more.

Hopefully Amazon wasn’t that stupid.


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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:48 am

Well, the western & central KY tornado wasn't quite on the ground continuously for 200 miles, but it wasn't too far off of that mark - at 165.7 miles.

The very preliminary EF-3 rating has now been upgraded to EF-4 for at least some small portions of the damage path.

The same parent super cell produced a strong tornado that touched down near Jonesboro, AR and remained on the ground for over 80 miles. There was a 15 mile break between when that tornado lifted versus when the second, longer lived tornado touched down.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ky-amazon/
https://www.weather.gov/pah/December-10 ... 21-Tornado

Mayfield is one of the communities where EF-4 damage was observed.



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Post by Rate This » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:23 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:48 am
Well, the western & central KY tornado wasn't quite on the ground continuously for 200 miles, but it wasn't too far off of that mark - at 165.7 miles.

The very preliminary EF-3 rating has now been upgraded to EF-4 for at least some small portions of the damage path.

The same parent super cell produced a strong tornado that touched down near Jonesboro, AR and remained on the ground for over 80 miles. There was a 15 mile break between when that tornado lifted versus when the second, longer lived tornado touched down.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ky-amazon/
https://www.weather.gov/pah/December-10 ... 21-Tornado

Mayfield is one of the communities where EF-4 damage was observed.
So 245.7 miles of tornado damage from one thunderstorm? Incredible. Save for the 15 mile gap we might be looking at a new record.



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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:39 am

Longest path ever for one continuous tornado on the ground is 219 miles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-State ... o_outbreak

Most the region that was struck by last weekend's tornado was outlooked by the SPC in either an enhanced or moderate risk of severe weather. Not bad - but in hindsight, a high risk outlook would've been appropriate.

The tornado watches were issued in timely fashion and advised of a "high" tornado risk in the risk assessment, but for whatever reason, the SPC stopped short of issuing a Particularly Dangerous Situation watch.

Local TV stations - despite the lack of high risk or even moderate risk outlook in some areas - during early evening newscasts were advising viewers that the weather had a good chance of turning ugly and to have multiple ways of receiving weather warnings after dark.

Local 6 WPSD in Paducah, KY began its continuous live coverage when the parent cell was still located in NE Arkansas about 15 to 20 minutes prior to the storm entering the outermost county in its viewing area. They did an outstanding job with their wall to wall coverage, even despite the technical issues that had to be endured - not to mention, a NWS radar outage in Paducah late in the coverage. (Thankfully, the Fort Campbell radar gave a good view of the mega storm as it barreled through Dawson Springs.)



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Post by TC Talks » Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:34 pm

So it's reasonable that the factory supervisors should have done a better job protecting the workers and not threatening firings?
The lawsuit claims the factory had "up to three and half hours before the tornado hit its place of business to allow its employees to leave its worksite as safety precautions." The factory showed "flagrant indifference to the rights" of the workers by refusing to do so, the lawsuit said.

Accusing Mayfield Consumer Products of violating Kentucky occupational safety and health workplace standards, the employees said they were notified to remain at the factory despite the danger of death and injury. The lawsuit claims that workers were threatened with termination if they left in the hours before the tornado hit. The suit seeks compensatory and punitive damages.

"It's a straightforward claim, exactly what this statute was meant to address,” Amos Jones, a Washington, D.C.-based attorney representing employees, said by phone Thursday.
https://www.wlky.com/article/injured-ke ... t/38530381


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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by km1125 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:25 pm

Yea, probably should have shut down every business in the county when the sirens started wailing. Should do that here too.



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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by TC Talks » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:25 pm

Glad to see we still have some company patsies rooting for death and misery.

Seriously, are you happy people died because of the poor judgement of a first tier manager?


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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by km1125 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:31 pm

You have no idea if more people would have been put at risk or killed if all the businesses in the area had shut down and evacuated people.



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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by TC Talks » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:34 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:31 pm
You have no idea if more people would have been put at risk or killed if all the businesses in the area had shut down and evacuated people.
Shouldn't that be left to the individuals to decide?


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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by km1125 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:22 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:34 pm
km1125 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:31 pm
You have no idea if more people would have been put at risk or killed if all the businesses in the area had shut down and evacuated people.
Shouldn't that be left to the individuals to decide?
Sure, let the inmates run the asylum.

They were free to leave.



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Re: Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by TC Talks » Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:38 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:22 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:34 pm
km1125 wrote:
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:31 pm
You have no idea if more people would have been put at risk or killed if all the businesses in the area had shut down and evacuated people.
Shouldn't that be left to the individuals to decide?
Sure, let the inmates run the asylum.

They were free to leave.
well that statement tells me you've never been involved in a corporate environment before. You're a meme you have no idea what you're talkin about.


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Let the lawsuits fly in Mayfield

Post by RayQix » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:33 am

Corporate entities have some responsibility to their people who work for them to keep them safe.

I don’t know corporate law but “err on the side of caution” should be the modern mindset. Someone in a supervisory role should have had the presence of mind to keep these folks safe so they had no (or little) loss of life and reduce injury.

I’m not sure why my work does a drill but I can tell you that it’s not taken lightly if you refuse to evacuate during a fire drill, let alone the real emergency. Makes me wonder what and how the EWC teams were doing at Bowling Green Assembly, for the folks that may have been on-shift at that time as we’ve not heard of any loss of life there while working.


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