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Masks Work

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:10 am

The professionals show that masks do work. Scientific proof!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... es-ul.html


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Re: Masks Work

Post by audiophile » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 am

N100 masks work, everything else only helps.

Of course Fauci lied to protect medical workers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-fa ... W3#image=1

“Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N-95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply,” Fauci said. “And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected.”

Fauci didn’t just fail to promote masks early on, he actively discouraged the use of masks, saying they didn’t work. Americans are now paying the price because too many people think masks are useless to combat the coronavirus. In reality, masks have been shown to help prevent the spread of covid-19, as the CDC now admits.


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Re: Masks Work

Post by Rate This » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:57 am

audiophile wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 am
N100 masks work, everything else only helps.

Of course Fauci lied to protect medical workers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-fa ... W3#image=1

“Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N-95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply,” Fauci said. “And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected.”

Fauci didn’t just fail to promote masks early on, he actively discouraged the use of masks, saying they didn’t work. Americans are now paying the price because too many people think masks are useless to combat the coronavirus. In reality, masks have been shown to help prevent the spread of covid-19, as the CDC now admits.
Science changes... imagine that. If Trump changed with it and promoted mask wearing instead of making fun of Biden for wearing one we’d be in a better spot. The well wasn’t poisoned by Fauci. It just wasn’t.



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Re: Masks Work

Post by TC Talks » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:14 am

For context, which group is doing a better job being socially aware and wearing masks?

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Re: Masks Work

Post by km1125 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:23 am

audiophile wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 am
N100 masks work, everything else only helps.

Of course Fauci lied to protect medical workers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-fa ... W3#image=1

“Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N-95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply,” Fauci said. “And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected.”

Fauci didn’t just fail to promote masks early on, he actively discouraged the use of masks, saying they didn’t work. Americans are now paying the price because too many people think masks are useless to combat the coronavirus. In reality, masks have been shown to help prevent the spread of covid-19, as the CDC now admits.
Yes, Fauci intentionally lied to be able to manipulate the supply.

Thing is, he didn't have to do that. The government could have gone right to the source and bought up the entire supply at wholesale values, even if inflated, to insure that there was enough for the healthcare workers. That would also incentivised the manufacturers to crank up output very early in the process.



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Re: Masks Work

Post by Rate This » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:35 am

km1125 wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:23 am
audiophile wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 am
N100 masks work, everything else only helps.

Of course Fauci lied to protect medical workers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-fa ... W3#image=1

“Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N-95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply,” Fauci said. “And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected.”

Fauci didn’t just fail to promote masks early on, he actively discouraged the use of masks, saying they didn’t work. Americans are now paying the price because too many people think masks are useless to combat the coronavirus. In reality, masks have been shown to help prevent the spread of covid-19, as the CDC now admits.
Yes, Fauci intentionally lied to be able to manipulate the supply.

Thing is, he didn't have to do that. The government could have gone right to the source and bought up the entire supply at wholesale values, even if inflated, to insure that there was enough for the healthcare workers. That would also incentivised the manufacturers to crank up output very early in the process.
There still would have been a several weeks or months long shortage.



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Re: Masks Work

Post by UP906 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:38 am

Fauci lied... people died.


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Re: Masks Work

Post by audiophile » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 pm

Rate This wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:57 am
audiophile wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 am
N100 masks work, everything else only helps.

Of course Fauci lied to protect medical workers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-fa ... W3#image=1

“Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N-95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply,” Fauci said. “And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected.”

Fauci didn’t just fail to promote masks early on, he actively discouraged the use of masks, saying they didn’t work. Americans are now paying the price because too many people think masks are useless to combat the coronavirus. In reality, masks have been shown to help prevent the spread of covid-19, as the CDC now admits.
Science changes... imagine that. If Trump changed with it and promoted mask wearing instead of making fun of Biden for wearing one we’d be in a better spot. The well wasn’t poisoned by Fauci. It just wasn’t.
How is that I got it right from the beginning, with no formal medical training?

Fauci has been around for how long and you say it "science changes"?

That's intellectually dishonest, and you know it. Fauci even admitted why he did it before congress.
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Re: Masks Work

Post by audiophile » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:07 pm

km1125 wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:23 am
audiophile wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:38 am
N100 masks work, everything else only helps.

Of course Fauci lied to protect medical workers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr-fa ... W3#image=1

“Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N-95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply,” Fauci said. “And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected.”

Fauci didn’t just fail to promote masks early on, he actively discouraged the use of masks, saying they didn’t work. Americans are now paying the price because too many people think masks are useless to combat the coronavirus. In reality, masks have been shown to help prevent the spread of covid-19, as the CDC now admits.
Yes, Fauci intentionally lied to be able to manipulate the supply.

Thing is, he didn't have to do that. The government could have gone right to the source and bought up the entire supply at wholesale values, even if inflated, to insure that there was enough for the healthcare workers. That would also incentivised the manufacturers to crank up output very early in the process.
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Re: Masks Work

Post by TC Talks » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:20 pm

Actually, you guys really seem to forget that whole part about embargoes on Chinese goods. Every other country in the world got PPE our president started a trade war forcing states to fight over a limited supply.

Great job Trump administration


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Re: Masks Work

Post by audiophile » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:32 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:20 pm
Actually, you guys really seem to forget that whole part about embargoes on Chinese goods. Every other country in the world got PPE our president started a trade war forcing states to fight over a limited supply.

Great job Trump administration
Not quite right TCT. China kept all the masks for themselves, even ones owned by US based 3M:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/busi ... avirus.htm

"The World Needs Masks. China Makes Them, but Has Been Hoarding Them.
As China grappled with the coronavirus, it kept the masks it made. Now that other nations need them, pressure is rising on Beijing to resume exports."


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Re: Masks Work

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:24 pm

3M manufactures masks at their plant right here in London ON. Trump demanded that they ship all of their masks to the US. Our spineless Liberal government din't even try to stop it. PM Trudeau just shrugged.

No offense intended to all you Trudeau admirers.


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Re: Masks Work

Post by km1125 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:33 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:24 pm
3M manufactures masks at their plant right here in London ON. Trump demanded that they ship all of their masks to the US. Our spineless Liberal government din't even try to stop it. PM Trudeau just shrugged.

No offense intended to all you Trudeau admirers.
If they really wanted to, and were encouraged appropriately, they could have quadrupled their output within a couple months. Just like other suppliers. Not much different than Ford or GM cranking out ventilators, which are orders of magnitude more complicated.



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Re: Masks Work

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:02 pm

That would require national leadership with some backbone. Something that is lacking in our Liberal government.


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