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Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:50 pm
by Rate This
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:38 pm
Rate This wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:21 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:55 pm
zzand wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:44 pm
I think that TC Talks is either a Tesla fan boy or has invested in the company.
Nope, and I dislike Musk and am enjoying his financial implosion.

It's a brilliant car. The factory, built in 1/3 the time of a domestic retooling, stunned my dad (who was in the biz). Tesla as a company is quite impressive, give it's age and who they compete with.

Critics take a shot at tech that is brand new, and it's only issue is related to user error, not design failures. If you consider how few moving parts a Tesla has, and most of it's trouble can be fix with software upgrades, it's a great value.

Sandy really shows the difference between Tesla and a respected domestic EV.

Tesla
https://youtu.be/GFgGnhRZarY?si=pYBJRGf0l1kZHkwk

Cadillac
https://youtu.be/dxWzV3Sln_E?si=ykjhDFUB0iDF-vSm
The Tesla factory IS A RETOOLING of the old NUMMI plant in Fremont.
1/3 the time of GM or Ford
It really depends on how much they needed to do in there. It may have been less than you think.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:54 am
by audiophile
It appears that the CyberTruck does not have limited-slip differential.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:47 pm
by TC Talks
audiophile wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:54 am
It appears that the CyberTruck does not have limited-slip differential.
Nope, and no rear axel either. Four independent motors with 4 wheel steering.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:40 pm
by zzand
Right. If memory serves all EVs use one motor per wheel. Four wheel drive means four motors. Two motors on the rear wheels for normal two wheel drive. Tesla did set the standard for this.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:27 pm
by km1125
zzand wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:40 pm
Right. If memory serves all EVs use one motor per wheel. Four wheel drive means four motors. Two motors on the rear wheels for normal two wheel drive. Tesla did set the standard for this.
This is not correct. EVs use all sorts of configurations. Some use a single drive motor for the rear axle, driving both rear wheels and then either a single motor driving both front wheels or dual motor (one for each wheel). Some can have three motors (two in the rear, one in the front), or they can have one motor per wheel.

TESLA has talked about the CT in four different configurations - a single motor RWD, a dual motor 4WD, a tri-motor AWD and a four-motor AWD. Because there's no production units rolling the streets yet, we really don't know what's going to be on the roadways, despite what they're touting.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:09 pm
by MWmetalhead
Tesla treats its buyers like horseshit:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-o ... 023-12?amp

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:17 pm
by Rate This
MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:09 pm
Tesla treats its buyers like horseshit:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-o ... 023-12?amp
When was the last time you heard of a cars steering wheel falling off? Good god.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:35 pm
by km1125
Rate This wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:17 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:09 pm
Tesla treats its buyers like horseshit:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-o ... 023-12?amp
When was the last time you heard of a cars steering wheel falling off? Good god.
Autopilot should automatically kick in at that point, whether you purchased it or not!

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:49 pm
by MWmetalhead
LOL!

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:09 am
by radioandtventhusiast
Tesla vehicles also longer have Disney+ for entertainment due to Elon's bad relationship with them dropping their ads on Twitter.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:18 am
by MWmetalhead
Elsewhere on the EV front - sales for the Mustang Mach-E and Dodge Hornet are proving disastrous.
(Note - the Dodge Hornet is a PHEV as opposed to pure electric.)

There is now an over 500 (!!!) day supply of the Dodge Hornet available when comparing available inventory to annualized sales data over the past 45 days.

Meanwhile, Mach-E inventory figures are approaching 365 days' supply on hand.

With regard to ICE vehicles, the buying public evidently has grown very tired of Dodge's muscle cars, which have not received much of a refresh in a very long time.

I also had no idea the very stale (and mafia-esque looking) Chrysler 300 was still in production. There is nearly a two year supply of those on dealer lots!

https://caredge.com/guides/new-car-inve ... -and-least

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:17 am
by Rate This
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:18 am
Elsewhere on the EV front - sales for the Mustang Mach-E and Dodge Hornet are proving disastrous.
(Note - the Dodge Hornet is a PHEV as opposed to pure electric.)

There is now an over 500 (!!!) day supply of the Dodge Hornet available when comparing available inventory to annualized sales data over the past 45 days.

Meanwhile, Mach-E inventory figures are approaching 365 days' supply on hand.

With regard to ICE vehicles, the buying public evidently has grown very tired of Dodge's muscle cars, which have not received much of a refresh in a very long time.

I also had no idea the very stale (and mafia-esque looking) Chrysler 300 was still in production. There is nearly a two year supply of those on dealer lots!

https://caredge.com/guides/new-car-inve ... -and-least
The Charger/Challenger/300/Durango all seem to attract a certain seedy clientele.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:21 am
by zzand
All three are dead or dying. The 300!has stopped production. The Charger and Challenger will be dead after this year. They are being replaced with EVs. The Charger will go back to a 2 door the way it is intended

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:57 pm
by TC Talks
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:18 am
Elsewhere on the EV front - sales for the Mustang Mach-E and Dodge Hornet are proving disastrous.
(Note - the Dodge Hornet is a PHEV as opposed to pure electric.)
The Mach-E isn't an instant invitation for ridicule. Why didn't Ford just roll out a new design?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck is an incapable pile of rubbish

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:58 pm
by TC Talks
Rate This wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:17 am
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:18 am
Elsewhere on the EV front - sales for the Mustang Mach-E and Dodge Hornet are proving disastrous.
(Note - the Dodge Hornet is a PHEV as opposed to pure electric.)

There is now an over 500 (!!!) day supply of the Dodge Hornet available when comparing available inventory to annualized sales data over the past 45 days.

Meanwhile, Mach-E inventory figures are approaching 365 days' supply on hand.

With regard to ICE vehicles, the buying public evidently has grown very tired of Dodge's muscle cars, which have not received much of a refresh in a very long time.

I also had no idea the very stale (and mafia-esque looking) Chrysler 300 was still in production. There is nearly a two year supply of those on dealer lots!

https://caredge.com/guides/new-car-inve ... -and-least
The Charger/Challenger/300/Durango all seem to attract a certain seedy clientele.
Dodge Ram ia the undesputed truck for Drunk Drivers too.