My Grand Cherokee is just fine thank you. If they are so bad why are there more Jeeps on the road than just about anything else?
Because of the brand name. But I see more of them dead on the side of the road than anything else, especially the less expensive ones. They also use substandard designs and materials throughout. The number one reason? It’s a Chrysler.
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:01 am
by zzand
Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
Perhaps… but for whatever it’s worth they tend to be Patriots, compasses, liberty’s and cherokees. I do see a sizable number of Grand Cherokee’s and one wagoneer which was a head scratcher to see abandoned already.
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:34 am
by zzand
The models you mentioned all have one thing in common, they have the 4 banger as standard and that is a well known bad engine. The Pentasatar 6 and Hemi are good engines. Believe it or not I understand the Wagoneer, first model year of any model from any company is always a crap shoot.
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
My Co-worker has had good luck with Dodge/Chrysler stuff.
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
My oldest daughter has always been faithful to Ford, until her last purchase. She drives a Fusion, getting rid of it as soon as it becomes more affordable to buy. At one point she had 6 outstanding recalls on it. My favorite was the steering wheel could come off in your hands. She is planning on going with Honda as she already has one of their mini vans and it has been trouble free.
1.5L is an engineering disaster (2014-2019)!
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:38 pm
by MWmetalhead
The cheap Jeep models with Fiat parts (Renegade; Compass) are the ones to avoid like the plague. The Wrangler is also unreliable, but obviously that vehicle has a very specific use case.
I'd definitely pick a Grand Cherokee over an Explorer right now.
Re: Surprise! Lincoln SUVs remain rolling shit boxes due to poor electrical engineering
Have to disagree. Can't speak for the less expensive models, but the fit, finish and materials in mine are on par with any other vehicle in it's class. The it's a Chrysler thing is old and for a long time was true, but new owners of the parent company have taken quality seriously and it shows. In 6 years my Charger had two minor recalls while my daughter had 6 at the same time with her Ford.
Perhaps… but for whatever it’s worth they tend to be Patriots, compasses, liberty’s and cherokees. I do see a sizable number of Grand Cherokee’s and one wagoneer which was a head scratcher to see abandoned already.
Chrysler is out performing Ford on quality by a mile right now.
Ram trucks remain the most popular vehicle for DUI drivers.