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I certainly agree the Big 3 have plenty of problems with quality.Hope you don't own a big 3 car... They are worse than Tesla.
It's a software update...Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:52 pmConsidering Tesla just recalled nearly EVERY vehicle they’ve sold… yeah.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:31 pmHope you don't own a big 3 car... They are worse than Tesla.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:10 amI'm expecting Tesla's air suspension to be comparable to Range Rover's in terms of reliability.
Here are the 10 automakers that have initiated the most recall campaigns during 2022 and the total number of vehicles involved:
Ford: 67 recalls, 8,636,265 units
Volkswagen Group: 45 recalls, 1,040,885 units
Fiat-Chrysler/Stellantis: 38 recalls, 3,041,431 units
Mercedes-Benz: 33 recalls, 969,993 units
General Motors: 32 recalls, 3,371,302 units
Kia: 24 recalls, 1,458,962 units
Hyundai: 22 recalls, 1,452,101 units
Tesla: 20 recalls, 3,769,581 units
BMW: 19 recalls, 1,000,455 units
Nissan: 15 recalls, 1,568,385 units
Mazda has the fewest.
It really doesn’t matter what it is. A recall is a recall. Some of the above recalls you quoted are for technology issues or reprogramming something.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:55 pmIt's a software update...Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:52 pmConsidering Tesla just recalled nearly EVERY vehicle they’ve sold… yeah.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:31 pmHope you don't own a big 3 car... They are worse than Tesla.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:10 amI'm expecting Tesla's air suspension to be comparable to Range Rover's in terms of reliability.
Here are the 10 automakers that have initiated the most recall campaigns during 2022 and the total number of vehicles involved:
Ford: 67 recalls, 8,636,265 units
Volkswagen Group: 45 recalls, 1,040,885 units
Fiat-Chrysler/Stellantis: 38 recalls, 3,041,431 units
Mercedes-Benz: 33 recalls, 969,993 units
General Motors: 32 recalls, 3,371,302 units
Kia: 24 recalls, 1,458,962 units
Hyundai: 22 recalls, 1,452,101 units
Tesla: 20 recalls, 3,769,581 units
BMW: 19 recalls, 1,000,455 units
Nissan: 15 recalls, 1,568,385 units
Mazda has the fewest.
It still leaves them in 7th place.Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:03 pmIt really doesn’t matter what it is. A recall is a recall. Some of the above recalls you quoted are for technology issues or reprogramming something.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:55 pmIt's a software update...Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:52 pmConsidering Tesla just recalled nearly EVERY vehicle they’ve sold… yeah.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:31 pmHope you don't own a big 3 car... They are worse than Tesla.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:10 amI'm expecting Tesla's air suspension to be comparable to Range Rover's in terms of reliability.
Here are the 10 automakers that have initiated the most recall campaigns during 2022 and the total number of vehicles involved:
Ford: 67 recalls, 8,636,265 units
Volkswagen Group: 45 recalls, 1,040,885 units
Fiat-Chrysler/Stellantis: 38 recalls, 3,041,431 units
Mercedes-Benz: 33 recalls, 969,993 units
General Motors: 32 recalls, 3,371,302 units
Kia: 24 recalls, 1,458,962 units
Hyundai: 22 recalls, 1,452,101 units
Tesla: 20 recalls, 3,769,581 units
BMW: 19 recalls, 1,000,455 units
Nissan: 15 recalls, 1,568,385 units
Mazda has the fewest.
That’s due to low sales volume.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:20 pmIt still leaves them in 7th place.Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:03 pmIt really doesn’t matter what it is. A recall is a recall. Some of the above recalls you quoted are for technology issues or reprogramming something.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:55 pmIt's a software update...Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:52 pmConsidering Tesla just recalled nearly EVERY vehicle they’ve sold… yeah.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:31 pmHope you don't own a big 3 car... They are worse than Tesla.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:10 amI'm expecting Tesla's air suspension to be comparable to Range Rover's in terms of reliability.
Here are the 10 automakers that have initiated the most recall campaigns during 2022 and the total number of vehicles involved:
Ford: 67 recalls, 8,636,265 units
Volkswagen Group: 45 recalls, 1,040,885 units
Fiat-Chrysler/Stellantis: 38 recalls, 3,041,431 units
Mercedes-Benz: 33 recalls, 969,993 units
General Motors: 32 recalls, 3,371,302 units
Kia: 24 recalls, 1,458,962 units
Hyundai: 22 recalls, 1,452,101 units
Tesla: 20 recalls, 3,769,581 units
BMW: 19 recalls, 1,000,455 units
Nissan: 15 recalls, 1,568,385 units
Mazda has the fewest.
craig11152 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:39 amIts a software update, still a recall, that has killed 17 people so far according to the Washington Post.
-Wash PostBut the recall — the largest in Tesla’s 20-year history — quickly drew condemnation from experts and lawmakers, who said new warnings and alerts are unlikely to solve Autopilot’s fundamental flaw: that Tesla fails to limit where drivers can turn it on in the first place.
Adaptive cruise control systems on cars, which control braking and speed, raise the risk of traffic crashes because the technology leads drivers to go faster, a U.S. study found on Thursday.
So the garbage system has a fundamental flaw and they are recalling all their cars to patch the software but it won’t fix it. You understand this is not proving your point right?TC Talks wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:25 pmcraig11152 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:39 amIts a software update, still a recall, that has killed 17 people so far according to the Washington Post.-Wash PostBut the recall — the largest in Tesla’s 20-year history — quickly drew condemnation from experts and lawmakers, who said new warnings and alerts are unlikely to solve Autopilot’s fundamental flaw: that Tesla fails to limit where drivers can turn it on in the first place.
Yes, all examples were of people using it incorrectly. It needs to be idiot proofed. But if you turn cruise control on with any car in a densely populated area, you run the risk of killing someone.
Adaptive cruise control systems on cars, which control braking and speed, raise the risk of traffic crashes because the technology leads drivers to go faster, a U.S. study found on Thursday.
Imagine if we as thoughtful with guns and safety.
American Customer Satisfaction Index: Luxury nameplates
BMW (81)
Lexus (81)
Audi (80)
Tesla (80)
Mercedes-Benz (78)
Cadillac (77)
Volvo (77)
Acura (76)
Lincoln (76)
Infiniti (75)
Not really… I’m sure many of the 17 loved their Teslas.TC Talks wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:22 pmSure it is. Tesla is more reliable than domestic cars, with a lower cost of operation. The Cyber Truck performs well for the environment it was designed to operate in.
The rest of the griping from this group of Midwestern luddites is hyperbole. You live in Michigan, the state that hates Tesla so much it's illegal to sell them here. Not surprised by the comments.
Tesla Owners disagree... (Tied for 3rd, One point behind first place, and ahead of every other domestic brand)American Customer Satisfaction Index: Luxury nameplates
BMW (81)
Lexus (81)
Audi (80)
Tesla (80)
Mercedes-Benz (78)
Cadillac (77)
Volvo (77)
Acura (76)
Lincoln (76)
Infiniti (75)
Indeed. But Tesla has a reputation for build quality issues and exceptionally poor customer service.craig11152 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:41 pmIf anyone dares to suggest Tesla is anything less than perfect they are "luddites" in the minds of the Tesla cult.
If you have driven one, or spent much time around Tesla, there are things to complain about. But what they got right overshadows the bad.craig11152 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:41 pmIf anyone dares to suggest Tesla is anything less than perfect they are "luddites" in the minds of the Tesla cult.