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Old cable lineups

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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by organman95 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:14 pm

I'll try to re-post Cheboygan from early-mid 90s. At the time was TCI. I usually mix something up or forget something each time I do this from memory. I was just a young kid then.

2-WGKI
3-HBO
4-PREVUE
5-CHBX
6-PBS
7-WTOM
8-WGTQ
9-CJIC
10-WWUP
11-LOCAL ACCESS
12-LOCAL ACCESS
13-WGN
14-Encore
15-FX
16-QVC
17-Cinemax
18-Disney
19-USA
21-CSPAN
22-Nickelodeon
23-Weather Channel
24-A&E
25-CNN ?
28-INTRO (perhaps Sneak Prevue?), very poor quality, always went in/out.
29-MTV
30-Family Channel (CBN/Fox/ABC)
31-Odyssey (or whatever it was called back then...I watched "The Joy of Music" on that channel)
33-TLC
34-Discovery
35-TBS
36-TNT

If you switched the back of the TV to IRC or HRC:
98-Porn (my guess is Playboy)
99-Porn (maybe another Playboy channel)

TCI was so messed up, at least in Cheboygan. 15 miles north to Mackinaw City, and while still a small lineup, at least it was straight through, no blocks/skips in numbers. I seem to recall a guide of some sort that I think went up to 25 or something.

After TCI folded, and Bresnan had the system, INTRO was replaced with Cartoon Network, VH1 was added (I think 20?) Fox News and a few others. After 36, it jumped to 44 (Odyssey/Hallmark) and 45 (Fitness CHannel)

After Charter took it over, they didn't really do squat with the Cheboygan lineup until around 2002-ish, when they tied to the TC headend.



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by ftballfan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:21 am

Traverse City, MI (1995)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInNQsWDUis
1 - Headline News
2 - Public Access
3 - WGKI (FOX 33 Cadillac)
4 - WPBN (NBC 7 Traverse City)
5 - TBS SuperStation
6 - WCMU (PBS 14 Mount Pleasant)
7 - Prevue Guide
8 - WGTU (ABC 29 Traverse City)
9 - QVC
10 - WWTV (CBS 9 Cadillac)
11 - Real Estate
12 - SuperStation WGN
13 - TLC / Northwestern Michigan College
14 - Sneak Prevue
15 - E!
16 - C-SPAN
17 - ESPN
18 - Lifetime
19 - TBN
20 - VH1
21 - Court TV
22 - USA
23 - Nickelodeon
24 - A&E
25 - TNN
26 - Weather Channel
27 - Comedy Central
28 - Q2 (QVC's short-lived second channel; I remember this being on 13 in Manistee)
29 - MTV
30 - Family Channel
31 - ESPN2
32 - AMC
33 - CNN
(cut off here, but the next four channels are still in the exact same spots to this day)
34 - Discovery Channel
35 - PASS (I remember it sharing time with CMT in Manistee)
36 - TNT
37 - CNBC
(cut off here)
38 - Pay-Per-View
39 - Pay-Per-View
40 - Pay-Per-View
42 - The Movie Channel
43 - Encore
44 - HBO2
45 - HBO
46 - Disney Channel
47 - Showtime
48 - Cinemax
49 - Cinemax 2
50 - Cartoon Network
51 - Turner Classic Movies
52 - FX
53 - America's Talking (forerunner to MSNBC)
54 - Visitor Channel



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by Chris1980 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:41 pm

Some old Southwestern Ontario guides, courtesy of the Vintage TV Guide website:

Sarnia - September 1983
(2) CICO TVO (OTA ch. 59)
(3) CKGN Global (OTA ch. 29)
(4) WDIV NBC Detroit
(5) WKBD Ind. Detroit
(6) Community Access
(7) WXYZ ABC Detroit
(8) CBLFT Radio-Canada Toronto
(9) CBET CBC Windsor
(10) CFPL CBC London
(11) WJBK CBS Detroit
(12) WTVS PBS Detroit
(13) CKCO CTV SW Ontario (OTA ch. 42)
(17) CHCH Ind. Hamilton
(18) WGPR Ind. Detroit
(19) WXON Ind. Detroit
(20) WJET ABC Erie PA

Chatham - September 1983
(2) TVO
(3) Global
(4) WDIV
(5) WJBK
(6) WKBD
(7) WXYZ
(8) CBLFT
(9) CBET
(10) CFPL
(11) Community Access
(12) WTVS
(13) CKCO
(16) WEWS ABC Cleveland
(17) WGPR
(18) WXON
(19) WUAB Ind. Cleveland
(20) WKYC NBC Cleveland
(21) WJKW CBS Cleveland
(24) First Choice
(26) SuperChannel

Leamington - September 1983
(2) WJBK
(3) Global
(4) WDIV
(5) WKBD
(6) WUAB
(7) WXYZ
(8) Community Access
(9) CBET
(10) CFPL
(11) CBLFT
(12) TVO
(13) CKCO
(16) WGPR
(17) WTVS
(18) WXON
(24) First Choice
(26) SuperChannel
(27) WKYC
(28) WEWS
(29) WJKW

Windsor - November 1984
(3) Global
(5) WDIV
(6) WJBK
(8) WXYZ
(10) CBET
(11) Community Access
(12) CBEFT Radio-Canada Windsor
(13) CKCO
(14) MuchMusic
(15) CNN
(16) TSN
(17) A&E
(18) TNN
(22) First Choice
(23) TVO (OTA ch. 32)
(24) CFPL
(25) CHCH
(28) WXON
(29) WKBD
(30) WTVS



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by Chris1980 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 pm

Windsor - September 1997
(2) TVO
(3) Global
(5) WDIV NBC Detroit
(6) CHWI Wheatley
(7) WJBK Fox Detroit
(8) WXYZ ABC Detroit
(10) CBET CBC Windsor
(11) Community
(12) CBEFT Radio-Canada Windsor
(13) CKCO CTV SW Ontario
(14) MuchMusic
(15) WWJ CBS Detroit
(16) YTV
(17) CBC NewsWorld
(18) Weather
(19) Vision TV
(20) TFO
(21) Family Channel
(22) Movie Network
(26) MoviePix
(27) Women's Television Network
(28) TNN
(29) A&E
(30) CNN
(32) TSN
(34) Showcase
(35) Disney
(36) TLC
(37) CMT
(38) Bravo
(39) Life Network
(43) CITY Toronto
(44) WXON Detroit
(45) CFMT Toronto
(46) TBS
(47) WGN Chicago
(48) WSBK Boston
(51) WTVS PBS Detroit
(53) WKBD Detroit
(54) CHCH ONTV Hamilton
(55) WTOL CBS Toledo
(56) WTVG ABC Toledo
(57) WNWO NBC Toledo
(58) Home Shopping
(59) House of Commons

Leamington - September 1997
(2) TVO
(3) Global
(5) WDIV
(6) CHWI
(7) WJBK
(8) WXYZ
(10) CBET
(11) Community
(12) CBLFT Radio-Canada Toronto
(13) CKCO
(14) MuchMusic
(15) WWJ
(16) YTV
(17) CBC Newsworld
(18) Weather
(19) Vision TV
(20) TFO
(21) Family Channel
(22) Movie Network
(27) Women's Television Network
(28) TNN
(29) A&E
(30) CNN
(32) TSN / CMT
(34) Showcase
(36) TLC
(38) Bravo
(39) Life Network
(43) CITY
(44) WXON
(45) CFMT
(51) WTVS
(53) WKBD
(54) CHCH
(55) WTOL
(56) WTVG
(57) WNWO
(58) Home Shopping
(59) House of Commons
(63) WUAB Cleveland
(64) WKYC NBC Cleveland
(65) WEWS ABC Cleveland
(66) WJW Fox Cleveland
(67) WOIO CBS Cleveland
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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by mtburb » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:22 am

Chris1980 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 pm
Leamington - September 1997
(66) WJW Fox Cleveland
(67) WOIO Fox Cleveland
You confused things there...WOIO was and is the Cleveland CBS affiliate by that point.


My furthest DTV tropo: KDKA Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at 202 miles for three days in January 2017 and a night in September 2017 with only an Antennas Direct C2V!

Current setup: Antennas Direct C2Max (2018-present)

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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by mtburb » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:33 pm

Downriver/Monroe listings circa August 1997. Mostly courtesy of the Free Press listings on newspapers.com. Each listing is incomplete.

Comcast Taylor (unrebuilt systems), August 1997
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - local access
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - WKBD (UPN)
6 - WTVS (PBS)
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - CNN
9 - CBET (CBC)
10 - TBS
11 - USA
13 - ESPN
14 - Prevue Channel
15 - MTV
16 - The Family Channel
17 - A&E
18 - The Discovery Channel
19 - TNT
20 - WXON (The WB)
21 - Nickelodeon
22 - Sci-Fi Channel
26 - HBO
27 - HBO2
28 - Showtime
29 - The Disney Channel
30 - Cinemax
33 - PASS
38 - WADL (Independent)
39 - AMC
40 - The Weather Channel
41 - TLC
42 - WGN (The WB national feed, Chicago)
43 - TNN
44 - WWJ (CBS)
45 - CNBC
46 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
47 - Lifetime
50 - Comedy Central
51 - E!
52 - BET

MediaOne Romulus/Belleville, August 1997
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - C-Span II (C-Span I was also carried, but channel number is unknown)
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - ESPN
6 - WKBD (UPN)
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - WWJ (CBS)
9 - CBET (CBC)
10 - WXON (The WB)
11 - Prevue Channel?
12 - WTVS (PBS)
13 - Animal Planet? (if correct, this placement may likely date back to when it was the WWOR EMI Service, which had been carried in Romulus since cable started there)
14 - TBS
15 - WGN (The WB national feed, Chicago)
16 - The Family Channel
17 - Nickelodeon
18 - A&E
19 - CNN
21 - PASS
22 - The Disney Channel
23 - HBO
24 - Cinemax
25 - The Movie Channel
26 - Showtime
31 - TLC
32 - Sci-Fi Channel
33 - CNBC
34 - ESPN2
35 - USA
37 - The Discovery Channel
38 - WADL (Independent)
39 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
44 - Lifetime
45 - AMC
46 - TNT
47 - TNN
48 - BET
49 - MTV
52 - Comedy Central

Monroe Cablevision (owned by Buckeye), August 1997
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - CNN
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - ESPN
6 - TBS
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - Prevue Channel?
9 - CBET (CBC)
10 - WGN (The WB national feed, Chicago)
11 - CICA (TVO)
12 - WUPW (Fox, Toledo)
13 - WTVG (ABC, Toledo)
14 - WKBD (UPN)
16 - WTVS (PBS)
17 - WTOL (CBS, Toledo)
18 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
19 - WNWO (NBC, Toledo)
20 - WXON (The WB)
21 - WWJ (CBS)
22 - HBO
23 - HSN
24 - Showtime
26 - The Movie Channel
27 - The Family Channel
28 - Cinemax
29 - Lifetime
30 - The Disney Channel
31 - USA
32 - PASS
33 - TNN
34 - ESPN2
36 - CNBC
37 - MTV
39 - TNT
40 - AMC
41 - Nickelodeon
42 - A&E
44 - Comedy Central
45 - The Discovery Channel
58 - Sci-Fi Channel
59 - TLC
63 - BET

TCI Woodhaven, August 1997
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - local access
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - WKBD (UPN)
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - QVC
9 - WWJ (CBS)
10 - HSN
11 - ESPN
12 - CNN
13 - TNT
14 - Encore
15-17 - pay-per-view
18 - HBO
19 - Showtime
20 - PASS
21 - The Disney Channel
22 - Cinemax
23 - USA
24 - AMC
25 - The Discovery Channel
26 - Lifetime
27 - Comedy Central
28 - TNN
29 - VH-1
30 - MTV
31 - A&E
32 - Nickelodeon
34 - TLC
35 - CNBC
36 - The Weather Channel
37 - CNN Headline News
38 - E!
39 - The Family Channel
40 - WNWO (NBC, Toledo) (WNWO was kicked off of TCI entirely a short time later thanks to the Cable Reform Act of 1996)
41 - C-Span I
42 - C-Span II
43 - TBS
44 - public access
45 - WXON (The WB)
46 - WGN (The WB national feed, Chicago)
47 - government access
48 - educational access
49 - CBET (CBC)
51 - WTVS (PBS)
52 - CICO (TVO)
53 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
55 - Prevue Channel
56 - Sneak Prevue
57 - CTND
62 - TBN

Wyandotte Cable, August 1997
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - ESPN
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - WKBD (UPN)
6 - The Weather Channel
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - WXON (The WB)
9 - CBET (CBC)
10 - CNN
11 - Prevue Channel
12 - WTVS (PBS)
14 - HGTV
15 - CICA (TVO)
16 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
17 - Nickelodeon
18 - The Family Channel
21 - local access
29 - AMC
30 - USA
31 - TBS
32 - TNT
33 - Comedy Central
34 - HBO
35 - The Movie Channel
36 - PASS
37 - Showtime
38 - Cinemax
39 - The Disney Channel
40 - WGN (The WB national feed, Chicago)
41 - Lifetime
42 - VH-1
43 - MTV
46 - CNBC
47 - TLC
48 - A&E
49 - The Discovery Channel
50 - TNN
54 - Sci-Fi Channel
57 - Cartoon Network
58 - WADL (Independent)
61 - WWJ (CBS)
Last edited by mtburb on Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:20 pm, edited 2 times in total.


My furthest DTV tropo: KDKA Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at 202 miles for three days in January 2017 and a night in September 2017 with only an Antennas Direct C2V!

Current setup: Antennas Direct C2Max (2018-present)

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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by Chris1980 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:23 pm

mtburb wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:22 am
Chris1980 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 pm
Leamington - September 1997
(66) WJW Fox Cleveland
(67) WOIO Fox Cleveland
You confused things there...WOIO was and is the Cleveland CBS affiliate by that point.
You are correct... brain fart. :hat



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by mtburb » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:29 pm

Another cable lineup from Wyandotte's system, this one over two years later from my previous post on this system. This was their first lineup after the city-wide rebuild and channel realignment. At the time, it was a big deal in Wyandotte since that meant that I was finally going to get additional cable networks the city had missed out on until then - even ZDTV and Romance Classics, which was amazing in itself given that both networks had relatively low clearance at the time. Additionally, Disney Channel was now a basic service on this system, no longer a pay holdout.

Wyandotte Cable, November 1999 (source: http://www.neighborhoodlink.com/DMS_Cab ... ges/380666)
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - WWJ (CBS)
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - WKBD (UPN)
6 - The Weather Channel
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - WDWB (The WB)
9 - CBET (CBC)
10 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
11 - TV Guide Channel
12 - WTVS (PBS)
13 - WADL (Independent)
14 - WPXD (Pax)
15 - public access
16 - local access
17 - advertisement channel (it was static slides of graphical advertisements of Wyandotte area businesses)
18 - public service channel
19 - municipal access
20 - educational access
21 - leased access
26 - pay-per-view
27 - HBO
28 - Cinemax
29 - Showtime
30 - The Movie Channel
31 - ESPN
32 - ESPN Classic
33 - ESPN2
34 - Speedvision
35 - Fox Sports Net Detroit
36 - CNN
37 - CNN Headline News
38 - MSNBC
39 - CNBC
40 - C-Span I
41 - C-Span II
42 - HGTV
43 - TLC
44 - The Discovery Channel
45 - ZDTV (later became TechTV, which merged with the now-defunct G4 network)
46 - Food Network
47 - Animal Planet
48 - A&E
49 - The Travel Channel
50 - The History Channel
51 - The Disney Channel
52 - Nickelodeon
53 - TV Land
54 - Cartoon Network
55 - Fox Family Channel
56 - TNT
57 - FX
58 - WGN (national feed, Chicago)
59 - USA
60 - TBS Superstation
61 - Romance Classics (renamed We a few months later)
62 - Lifetime
63 - AMC
64 - Turner Classic Movies
65 - Bravo
66 - TNN
67 - VH-1
68 - MTV
69 - E!
70 - Comedy Central
71 - Sci-Fi Channel
72 - TBN
73 - CTND
74 - QVC
75 - HSN


My furthest DTV tropo: KDKA Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at 202 miles for three days in January 2017 and a night in September 2017 with only an Antennas Direct C2V!

Current setup: Antennas Direct C2Max (2018-present)

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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by ftballfan » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:29 pm

mtburb wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:29 pm
Another cable lineup from Wyandotte's system, this one over two years later from my previous post on this system. This was their first lineup after the city-wide rebuild and channel realignment. At the time, it was a big deal in Wyandotte since that meant that I was finally going to get additional cable networks the city had missed out on until then - even ZDTV and Romance Classics, which was amazing in itself given that both networks had relatively low clearance at the time. Additionally, Disney Channel was now a basic service on this system, no longer a pay holdout.

Wyandotte Cable, November 1999 (source: http://www.neighborhoodlink.com/DMS_Cab ... ges/380666)
2 - WJBK (Fox)
3 - WWJ (CBS)
4 - WDIV (NBC)
5 - WKBD (UPN)
6 - The Weather Channel
7 - WXYZ (ABC)
8 - WDWB (The WB)
9 - CBET (CBC)
10 - WGTE (PBS, Toledo)
11 - TV Guide Channel
12 - WTVS (PBS)
13 - WADL (Independent)
14 - WPXD (Pax)
15 - public access
16 - local access
17 - advertisement channel (it was static slides of graphical advertisements of Wyandotte area businesses)
18 - public service channel
19 - municipal access
20 - educational access
21 - leased access
26 - pay-per-view
27 - HBO
28 - Cinemax
29 - Showtime
30 - The Movie Channel
31 - ESPN
32 - ESPN Classic
33 - ESPN2
34 - Speedvision
35 - Fox Sports Net Detroit
36 - CNN
37 - CNN Headline News
38 - MSNBC
39 - CNBC
40 - C-Span I
41 - C-Span II
42 - HGTV
43 - TLC
44 - The Discovery Channel
45 - ZDTV (later became TechTV, which merged with the now-defunct G4 network)
46 - Food Network
47 - Animal Planet
48 - A&E
49 - The Travel Channel
50 - The History Channel
51 - The Disney Channel
52 - Nickelodeon
53 - TV Land
54 - Cartoon Network
55 - Fox Family Channel
56 - TNT
57 - FX
58 - WGN (national feed, Chicago)
59 - USA
60 - TBS Superstation
61 - Romance Classics (renamed We a few months later)
62 - Lifetime
63 - AMC
64 - Turner Classic Movies
65 - Bravo
66 - TNN
67 - VH-1
68 - MTV
69 - E!
70 - Comedy Central
71 - Sci-Fi Channel
72 - TBN
73 - CTND
74 - QVC
75 - HSN
However, Wyandotte did lose TVO at this time. On a related note, were any Canadian stations other than CBET and TVO ever carried anywhere in SE Michigan?



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by mtburb » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:35 pm

ftballfan wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:29 pm
However, Wyandotte did lose TVO at this time. On a related note, were any Canadian stations other than CBET and TVO ever carried anywhere in SE Michigan?
According to the FCC Cable Search, CKCO was once carried in most of Macomb County north of 16 Mile and east of Gratiot and in Port Huron. CFPL was also carried in Port Huron and CIII was carried at the Selfridge ANG Base. All of these systems, which of course had CBET as well, were originally run by Harron Communications, which was sold to Jones Intercable for two seconds before it was acquired by Comcast.

All of these areas have since been consolidated into a single Comcast system with the headend in Chesterfield. To this date, it still has both CBET and CIII in both SD and HD.
ftballfan wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:29 pm
Unknown cable company - Three Rivers, MI (April 1992)
That system was also owned at the time by Jones Intercable.


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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by organman95 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:08 am

Found something interesting. No clue what the channel order was, but found an application from 1975 from TCI in Cheboygan with these channels listed as channels to be carried:

CJICTV
WBKBTV
WCMLTV
WFLD
WGN TV
WGTU
WHMETV
WJMNTV
WJRTTV
WKBDTV
WTOMTV
WWUPTV

Would there have been anything else available at that time? I can't think of any channels aside from HBO that were around in '75
Is there a way to look up a channel list from past decades?



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by mtburb » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:53 pm

organman95 wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:08 am
Found something interesting. No clue what the channel order was, but found an application from 1975 from TCI in Cheboygan with these channels listed as channels to be carried:

CJICTV
WBKBTV
WCMLTV
WFLD
WGN TV
WGTU
WHMETV
WJMNTV
WJRTTV
WKBDTV
WTOMTV
WWUPTV

Would there have been anything else available at that time? I can't think of any channels aside from HBO that were around in '75
Is there a way to look up a channel list from past decades?
Here's a 1980 Cheboygan listing from americanradiohistory.com:

2 - CJIC
5 - WTOM
9 - WWUP

WGTU, WJRT and WKBD were also carried, as was one of those old-timey real-time weather camera channels that were commonplace on 1970's cable systems. This system only carried a total of seven channels, which was a rarity even for 1980. Sun Cablevision owned this system in 1980, not TCI.


My furthest DTV tropo: KDKA Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at 202 miles for three days in January 2017 and a night in September 2017 with only an Antennas Direct C2V!

Current setup: Antennas Direct C2Max (2018-present)

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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by organman95 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:59 pm

mtburb wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:53 pm

Here's a 1980 Cheboygan listing from americanradiohistory.com:

2 - CJIC
5 - WTOM
9 - WWUP

WGTU, WJRT and WKBD were also carried, as was one of those old-timey real-time weather camera channels that were commonplace on 1970's cable systems. This system only carried a total of seven channels, which was a rarity even for 1980. Sun Cablevision owned this system in 1980, not TCI.
Thanks for the info. Had not heard of americanradiohistory. Until Charter took over and connected Cheboygan to TC headend, Cheboygan always had a smaller lineup than most in Northern MI. Also, fiber wasn't brought into Cheboygan until 1996/97, which was also later than many in the Northern MI market.



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by Chris1980 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:13 pm

Here's the cable lineup for Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario in December of '89:

(3) WNEM Bay City (NBC)
(4) WKBD Detroit (Fox) (mistakenly listed as an ABC affiliate by TV Guide)
(5) News/Sports/Finance
(6) CJIC Sault Ste. Marie (CBC)
(7) TVOntario
(8) La Chaine Francaise (now TFO)
(9) WWUP Sault Ste. Marie (CBS)
(10) Community Access
(11) CHBX Sault Ste. Marie (CTV)
(12) WJRT Flint (ABC)
(13) CBLFT Toronto (SRC)
(15) Family Channel
(16) First Choice
(18) TSN
(19) CNN
(20) Nashville Network
(21) A&E
(22) YTV
(23) WCML Alpena (PBS)
(24) Vision TV
(25) Weather Now
(26) MCTV (CICI) Sudbury (CTV) (CHBX and CJIC didn't join the MCTV system until the following year, IIRC)
(27) House of Commons
(28) Ontario Legislature
(30) Home Shopping

Interestingly, neither of northern Michigan's ABC or NBC affiliates were apprently carried in the Sault then. By contrast, if the TV Guide listing is accurate, Elliot Lake (midway between the Sault and Sudbury) got WGTQ/WGTU on two channels. Elliot Lake also got WTVS (also on two channels), CKNC (MCTV-CBC Sudbury), WGRZ (NBC Buffalo) and CHOT (TVA Hull, Quebec, in the Ottawa market - present-day part of Gatineau).



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by Chris1980 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:52 pm

Trillum Cable Windsor, July 1989:

(2) Canadian Home Shopping
(3) Global
(4) CBC Parliamentary
(5) WDIV
(6) WJBK
(7) Ontario Parliament Network
(8) WXYZ
(9) Broadcast News
(10) CBET
(11) Community Access
(12) SRC
(13) CKCO
(14) MuchMusic
(15) CNN
(16) TSN
(17) A&E
(18) Nashville Network
(19) Headline News
(20) TeleLatino
(21) Family Channel
(22) First Choice
(23) TVO
(24) CFPL
(25) CHCH
(26) CFMT
(27) CITY
(28) YTV
(29) CBC Newsworld
(30) Weather Network
(31) Vision TV
(32) WXON
(33) WKBD
(34) WTVS
(35) La Chaine Francaise
(36) Stock Exchange
(37) WGTE
(38) Genesis Storytime
(39) Chinavision
(40) WGPR
(43) WTOL
(44) WTVG
(45) WNWO
(46) TCTV

Trillium Cable Leamington, May 1990 had almost the same lineup, with the following differences:
(37) WKYC
(38) WEWS
(39) WJW
(40) WUAB
(43) WNWO
(45) WTOL
(46) WGPR
WGTE, Stock Exchange, Genesis, Chinavision and TCTV were not carried.



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