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Old cable lineups

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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by WC8KCY » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:14 pm

rugratsonline wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:43 pm
Which explains why the system in the Canadian Soo imported WNEM and WJRT, until the early 2000s, when what became Shaw replaced them (and WNMU Marquette) with Detroit channels -- most of the time, when those stations had to pre-empt, it was for a regular special or a Tigers game.
Note that the both Saults were once on a common system--Continental Cablevision--which launched in 1961. Northern Michigan didn't have a full-time ABC affiliate; they would've had to microwave in WJRT or WLUK to provide one until WGTQ signed on in 1976. I doubt they (or anyone else) would've found it worthwhile to microwave in WGTU upon its 1971 launch.

WNEM and WJRT were still on the Sault, Michigan Bresnan system as of June, 1991. While living in the Sault from 1988-91, I observed that most sets on that system were tuned to WJRT instead of WGTQ for ABC programming.


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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by ftballfan » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:59 pm

rugratsonline wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:43 pm
WC8KCY wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:25 pm
Chris1980 wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:13 pm
Here's the cable lineup for Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario in December of '89:

(3) WNEM Bay City (NBC)
...
(30) Home Shopping

Interestingly, neither of northern Michigan's ABC or NBC affiliates were apprently carried in the Sault then.
I once asked a headend engineer there why WTOM and WGTQ weren't on the lineup. He tersely cited how both stations had a nasty habit of preempting prime-time network programming in favour of Billy Graham crusades and other televangelist specials, and also cited the large amount of televangelist programming aired during off-network hours. To quote the engineer: "People don't pay for cable TV to watch that shit!"
Which explains why the system in the Canadian Soo imported WNEM and WJRT, until the early 2000s, when what became Shaw replaced them (and WNMU Marquette) with Detroit channels -- most of the time, when those stations had to pre-empt, it was for a regular special or a Tigers game.
I found a Soo lineup from 2001 that still had WJRT and WNMU, but had dropped WNEM (likely when it switched to CBS) for WTOM. WWUP and WFQX (!!) were also carried in Soo Ontario at this point:
2 – Shopping Channel
3 – CIII (Global 6 Paris)
4 – TFO
6 – CJIC (CBC 5 Sault Ste. Marie ON)
7 – TVOntario
8 – CHCH (IND 11 Hamilton)
9 – WWUP (CBS 10 Sault Ste. Marie MI)
11 – CHBX (CTV 2 Sault Ste. Marie ON)
12 – WJRT (ABC 12 Flint)
13 – CBLFT (SRC 25 Toronto)
14 – WNMU (PBS 13 Marquette)
15 – Headline Sports
16 – WTOM (NBC 4 Cheboygan)
18 – MuchMusic
19 – WFQX (FOX 33 Cadillac)
20 – Newsworld
21 – CTV NewsNet
22 – YTV
23 – The Sports Network
24 – Treehouse
25 – MuchMoreMusic
26 – Reseau des Sports
27 – Aboriginal Peoples TV
29 – Showcase
30 – A&E Network
31 – CNN
32 – CTV SportsNet
33 – The National Network
34 – Country Music Television
35 – The Learning Channel
36 – Bravo!
38 – Discovery Channel
39 – Life Network
40 – Telelatino
43 – CNBC
44 – Women’s Television Network
45 – Teletoon
46 – Family Channel
47 – WTBS (IND 17 Atlanta)
48 – Comedy Central
49 – Home and Garden TV
50 – Food Network
51 – Outdoor Life Network
52 – History Channel
53 – Space
54 – The Golf Channel
55 – Speed Vision
56 – Prime TV
58 – VisionTV
61 – MovieNet 1
62 – MovieNet 2
63 – MovieNet 3
64 – MovieNet 4
65 – MovieNet 5
66 – MoviePix
67 – WSBK (UPN 38 Boston)
68 – KTLA (WB 5 Los Angeles)
69 – WGN (WB 9 Chicago)
70 – WPIX (WB 11 New York)
72 – CHOT (TVA 40 Hull)
78 – Report on Business TV
79 – Star!
80 – Canadian Learning TV

However, Blind River, Elliot Lake, Espanola, Sudbury, and the Tri-Towns did pick up WGTQ for ABC as of 2001, but have since dropped it for WXYZ (likely at the behest of the CRTC).



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by km1125 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:12 pm

WC8KCY wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:14 pm
Note that the both Saults were once on a common system--Continental Cablevision--which launched in 1961.
I don't think that was Continental Cablevision - might have been something similar.

Continental started in 63 in Tiffin and Fostoria in Ohio. Their first franchises in Michigan were in Jackson, Lansing and Roseville.



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Re: Old cable lineups

Post by WC8KCY » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:41 am

km1125 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:12 pm
I don't think that was Continental Cablevision - might have been something similar.

Continental started in 63 in Tiffin and Fostoria in Ohio. Their first franchises in Michigan were in Jackson, Lansing and Roseville.
Perhaps it didn't launch as Continental, but by 1967 it was branded as such, and old-timers in both Saults were still talking about the twin-Sault Continental system into the '90s. From the 1967 TV Factbook:

Sault Ste. Marie -Continental Cablevision Inc., 308 Queen St. E. Phone: 256 -6202. No. subscribers, 2,000; estimated potential, 5,000. Began service, 1961. Equipment, composite. Frank Del Bosco, mgr. Owned by Jack Kent Cooke Inc. (see American Cablevision under U.S. CATV Group Ownership). Stations: WTOM -TV, Cheboygan; WWUP-TV & CJIV-TV (sic) Sault Ste. Marie (picked off -air); WNEM, Bay City; WJRT-TV, Flint (via microwave); FM, weather, news. Installation fee, $9.95; monthly charge, $3.95. Channel capacity, 7, one to be added in year. Miles of plant, 80. Note: All channels carried via cable from Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.


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