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Oldies music on 1620

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Oldies music on 1620

Post by originalzzmfmjock » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:37 am

While tuning the radio around sunset the past few weeks I've been hearing a station on 1620 playing 50's, 60's, 70's oldies. The signal fades in and out, so it is not a local signal. Been hearing it at both of my residences in Grand Rapids and Newaygo. There are no liners, voices, jingles, etc. just music. Lots of songs you won't hear on conventional oldies radio. There is also about 4 seconds of dead air between each song. I can't seem to find a match for it on radio locator. Anybody have any ideas/clues to what I've been hearing?



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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Ben Zonia » Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:20 pm

I guess it could be a pirate.

I used to hear images of oscillator harmonics from shortwave on some older AM radios around that frequency.

The most likely before it signed off was WDND 1620 South Bend. It's been off three years from what I read.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Turkeytop » Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:33 pm

originalzzmfmjock wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:37 am
While tuning the radio around sunset the past few weeks I've been hearing a station on 1620 playing 50's, 60's, 70's oldies. The signal fades in and out, so it is not a local signal. Been hearing it at both of my residences in Grand Rapids and Newaygo. There are no liners, voices, jingles, etc. just music. Lots of songs you won't hear on conventional oldies radio. There is also about 4 seconds of dead air between each song. I can't seem to find a match for it on radio locator. Anybody have any ideas/clues to what I've been hearing?
I'm guessing pirate. Are you getting it during the day, or at night?


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Ben Zonia » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:49 pm

Old 160 meter ham equipment is often used for this, as it goes from 1800-2000 kHz and can be tuned to 1710 kHz. And a short antenna is fairly efficient. Not saying it's hams though.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Turkeytop » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:09 pm

I wonder if it could be someone living nearby running a low power AM transmitter fo their own use.

I have a low power FM Xmtr I use to transmit the audio from my SXM all over the property on 90.1 MHZ. In reality, the signal has a range of about a half block.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Ben Zonia » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:45 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:09 pm
I wonder if it could be someone living nearby running a low power AM transmitter fo their own use.
Except that he's hearing it fade in and out in Grand Rapids and Newaygo.

Shortwave oscillator harmonic images tune very sharp due to the harmonics being on a much higher frequency. You would only be aware of that on an analog tuned radio though.

WTWW has such a format, but it's on 5085 kHz.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Turkeytop » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:14 pm

Ben Zonia wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:45 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:09 pm
I wonder if it could be someone living nearby running a low power AM transmitter fo their own use.
Except that he's hearing it fade in and out in Grand Rapids and Newaygo.

Shortwave oscillator harmonic images tune very sharp due to the harmonics being on a much higher frequency. You would only be aware of that on an analog tuned radio though.

WTWW has such a format, but it's on 5085 kHz.
I'm familliar with WTWW. You may be right.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Ben Zonia » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:50 pm

If there was a signal on 2530 kHz, and if it were strong enough, the image would be heard on 1620. That's just one example. That used to be near the Marine Band.

I have asked people that if they are close to the WWV transmitter, they hear an image on 1590. The 2500 kHz image would be on 1590.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by originalzzmfmjock » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:55 pm

I only hear it around the sun set hours between around 8:30 and 10 PM. Definitely a signal that is being received via sky wave, It is not a local signal at all.



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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Deleted User 15840 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:31 pm

Could be someone with an old “talking house” transmitter nearby playing oldies music. Anyone remember the talking house real estate sign in front of a house for sale, Tune your radio to AM 1620 for information on this house. Those were the days.



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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Turkeytop » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:36 pm

Longwave wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:31 pm
Could be someone with an old “talking house” transmitter nearby playing oldies music. Anyone remember the talking house real estate sign in front of a house for sale, Tune your radio to AM 1620 for information on this house. Those were the days.
I remember those. You may be onto something.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by k8jd » Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:00 pm

There was a 1620 in N.NJ near NYC , not sure if it's still on...



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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Radio Chili » Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:23 am

Longwave wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:31 pm
Could be someone with an old “talking house” transmitter nearby playing oldies music. Anyone remember the talking house real estate sign in front of a house for sale, Tune your radio to AM 1620 for information on this house. Those were the days.
Are you serious??! Once again, he states that it fades in and out. And his homes are 35 miles apart. That completely rules out the possibility of it being any "Talking House" xmitter.



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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by Colonel Flagg » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:48 pm

I may have heard this on I-80, near the Quad Cities, the weekend before last.


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Re: Oldies music on 1620

Post by MWmetalhead » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:02 am

Mystery solved, perhaps:

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/thread ... es.595245/

A "Part 15" low power station from southern PA.



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