UAW prez’s house raided by FBI

[lovinlife101]

But you all will still believe that these union bosses work for you!

You also put cops on pedestals.

[lovinlife101]

But you all will still believe that these union bosses work for you!

You also put cops on pedestals.

Union bosses? My Union has 750,000 bosses. We're the members who go to work every day, do our jobs, pay our dues and, every four years, elect our leaders. We're the Union bosses.

If you’re the boss, why don’t you fire the corrupt bosses that make money off your dues, do no work, and are under federal investigation?

[lovinlife101]

If you’re the boss, why don’t you fire the corrupt bosses that make money off your dues, do no work, and are under federal investigation?

Unlike the President of your country and his associates, none of the elected leaders of my Union are under investigation. And we do, every four years, get the opportunity to fire them. We're the Union bosses.

What country do you think I’m in?

[lovinlife101]

If you’re the boss, why don’t you fire the corrupt bosses that make money off your dues, do no work, and are under federal investigation?

Unlike the President of your country and his associates, none of the elected leaders of my Union are under investigation. And we do, every four years, get the opportunity to fire them. We're the Union bosses.

What country do you think I’m in?

I guess I wrongly assumed you're American. My apologies .

No problem.

I’ve never had a need to pay someone else to negotiate on my behalf. No agents, no union, no attorneys, no leaches.

[lovinlife101]

Both my wife and I were born into and grew up in poverty. Indeed, the first few years of our life together, we lived in poverty. I got my first big break when I got a job in a Union shop, with decent wages, benefits and something called a Pension Plan.

For the past nine years I've been retired. We're far from wealthy but we live in modest comfort. No one in the working class should have to settle for any less.

I too was born into poverty, however I’m not a victim. I wasn’t poor because other people were wealthy. I chose a better way. I’ll never be “retired” because I’ll never choose to be. I will always work regardless if I get paid for it now. I volunteer and am outrageously generous. For most of my life I’ve made seven figures in investment income and give most of it away. I make choices and so do you.

[lovinlife101]

I too was born into poverty, however I’m not a victim. I wasn’t poor because other people were wealthy. I chose a better way. I’ll never be “retired” because I’ll never choose to be. I will always work regardless if I get paid for it now. I volunteer and am outrageously generous. For most of my life I’ve made seven figures in investment income and give most of it away. I make choices and so do you.

I never considered myself a victim of poverty and I never blamed my poverty on anyone else. Yes, I've made choices. And I'm mostly happy with the choices I've made. If I have any regrets, joining my Union isn't one of them.

Did you have a choice to join?

[lovinlife101]

PDid you have a choice to join?

Of course I had a choice. I chose to quit my job in the low wage, non-Union shop where I had been working and go to a workplace where the workers had just recently organized their own Union.

I didn’t ask that.

So in other words, you were forced to pay, just like everyone else after the majority of workers there before you voted. You did not initially vote to join the union and have never had a recertification vote. The union can get you fired for not paying dues and makes it illegal to represent yourself. Tell me where I’m wrong here.

[lovinlife101]

No one forced me to join the Union. I went to work there so I could join the Union. If I was opposed to Union membership I'd have gone somewhere else.

I don't know where you live but, if it's Ontario, you're colossally ignorant of Ontario law. In Ontario, workers get the opportunity to decertify their Union during the lat 90 days of every collective agreement.

If nobody forced you to join, try not paying dues. You’ll be fired, per the union’s request, and wonder why you ever said it was a free choice.

[lovinlife101]

I don't regret a single nickle of the dues I paid over the years. I recovered it all and more in pension benefits in the first year of my retirement.

I never said you did, but you’re forced to do it.

[lovinlife101]

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I think we've pretty much exhausted this topic. We'll never agree.

I'll end by saying that signing a Union card was one of the proudest moments of my life. I've been a proud member of my Union for 45 years.

Nope. We’re just getting started.

I’ve been in workplaces where union thugs use the card check method. They stand over an innocent employee and demand they sign a card to join the union. If they don’t, they’re harassed until they do.

Union thugs ty to get producers to sign “neutrality agreements.” Sounds fair, right? Nope! Just means the company can’t talk about the union and the union thugs have free reign.