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Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by TC Talks » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am

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I know it's counter-intuitive for you Neo-Fascists to embrace knowledge, but read this, it's free...

February 26 is Manifesto Day
The Communist Manifesto is divided into a preamble and four sections, the last of these a short conclusion. The introduction begins by proclaiming: "A spectre is haunting Europe—the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre". Pointing out that parties everywhere—including those in government and those in the opposition—have flung the "branding reproach of communism" at each other, the authors infer from this that the powers-that-be acknowledge communism to be a power in itself. Subsequently, the introduction exhorts Communists to openly publish their views and aims, to "meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself".

The first section of the Manifesto, "Bourgeois and Proletarians", elucidates the materialist conception of history, that "the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles". Societies have always taken the form of an oppressed majority exploited under the yoke of an oppressive minority. In capitalism, the industrial working class, or proletariat, engage in class struggle against the owners of the means of production, the bourgeoisie. As before, this struggle will end in a revolution that restructures society, or the "common ruin of the contending classes". The bourgeoisie, through the "constant revolutionising of production [and] uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions" have emerged as the supreme class in society, displacing all the old powers of feudalism. The bourgeoisie constantly exploits the proletariat for its labour power, creating profit for themselves and accumulating capital. However, in doing so the bourgeoisie serves as "its own grave-diggers"; the proletariat inevitably will become conscious of their own potential and rise to power through revolution, overthrowing the bourgeoisie.

"Proletarians and Communists", the second section, starts by stating the relationship of conscious communists to the rest of the working class. The communists' party will not oppose other working-class parties, but unlike them, it will express the general will and defend the common interests of the world's proletariat as a whole, independent of all nationalities. The section goes on to defend communism from various objections, including claims that it advocates free love or disincentivises people from working. The section ends by outlining a set of short-term demands—among them a progressive income tax; abolition of inheritances and private property; abolition of child labour; free public education; nationalisation of the means of transport and communication; centralisation of credit via a national bank; expansion of publicly owned etc.—the implementation of which would result in the precursor to a stateless and classless society.

The third section, "Socialist and Communist Literature", distinguishes communism from other socialist doctrines prevalent at the time—these being broadly categorized as Reactionary Socialism; Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism; and Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism. While the degree of reproach toward rival perspectives varies, all are dismissed for advocating reformism and failing to recognize the pre-eminent revolutionary role of the working class. "Position of the Communists in Relation to the Various Opposition Parties", the concluding section of the Manifesto, briefly discusses the communist position on struggles in specific countries in the mid-nineteenth century such as France, Switzerland, Poland and Germany, this last being "on the eve of a bourgeois revolution" and predicts that a world revolution will soon follow. It ends by declaring an alliance with the democratic socialists, boldly supporting other communist revolutions and calling for united international proletarian action—"Working Men of All Countries, Unite!".
https://books.google.com/books/download ... _Party.pdf


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:58 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
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I know it's counter-intuitive for you Neo-Fascists to embrace knowledge, but read this, it's free...

February 26 is Manifesto Day
The Communist Manifesto is divided into a preamble and four sections, the last of these a short conclusion. The introduction begins by proclaiming: "A spectre is haunting Europe—the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre". Pointing out that parties everywhere—including those in government and those in the opposition—have flung the "branding reproach of communism" at each other, the authors infer from this that the powers-that-be acknowledge communism to be a power in itself. Subsequently, the introduction exhorts Communists to openly publish their views and aims, to "meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself".

The first section of the Manifesto, "Bourgeois and Proletarians", elucidates the materialist conception of history, that "the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles". Societies have always taken the form of an oppressed majority exploited under the yoke of an oppressive minority. In capitalism, the industrial working class, or proletariat, engage in class struggle against the owners of the means of production, the bourgeoisie. As before, this struggle will end in a revolution that restructures society, or the "common ruin of the contending classes". The bourgeoisie, through the "constant revolutionising of production [and] uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions" have emerged as the supreme class in society, displacing all the old powers of feudalism. The bourgeoisie constantly exploits the proletariat for its labour power, creating profit for themselves and accumulating capital. However, in doing so the bourgeoisie serves as "its own grave-diggers"; the proletariat inevitably will become conscious of their own potential and rise to power through revolution, overthrowing the bourgeoisie.

"Proletarians and Communists", the second section, starts by stating the relationship of conscious communists to the rest of the working class. The communists' party will not oppose other working-class parties, but unlike them, it will express the general will and defend the common interests of the world's proletariat as a whole, independent of all nationalities. The section goes on to defend communism from various objections, including claims that it advocates free love or disincentivises people from working. The section ends by outlining a set of short-term demands—among them a progressive income tax; abolition of inheritances and private property; abolition of child labour; free public education; nationalisation of the means of transport and communication; centralisation of credit via a national bank; expansion of publicly owned etc.—the implementation of which would result in the precursor to a stateless and classless society.

The third section, "Socialist and Communist Literature", distinguishes communism from other socialist doctrines prevalent at the time—these being broadly categorized as Reactionary Socialism; Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism; and Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism. While the degree of reproach toward rival perspectives varies, all are dismissed for advocating reformism and failing to recognize the pre-eminent revolutionary role of the working class. "Position of the Communists in Relation to the Various Opposition Parties", the concluding section of the Manifesto, briefly discusses the communist position on struggles in specific countries in the mid-nineteenth century such as France, Switzerland, Poland and Germany, this last being "on the eve of a bourgeois revolution" and predicts that a world revolution will soon follow. It ends by declaring an alliance with the democratic socialists, boldly supporting other communist revolutions and calling for united international proletarian action—"Working Men of All Countries, Unite!".
https://books.google.com/books/download ... _Party.pdf
As I recall it has failed everywhere it has been tried... it’s a nice piece of rosy eyed wishful thinking though...



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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by TC Talks » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:53 am

Ah, but look at where many if the ideas have lead to success!


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by bmw » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:51 am

Whether it "works" isn't even the point. The point is that under Communism, you must give up significant individual freedom. At a purely philosophical level, it is not the role of the government to tell man how to run his affairs.



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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by TC Shuts Up » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:47 pm

Communism is just short of Slavery. It takes nearly everything you have and produce, and gives it to your Master, the Government . It reduces all but the Ruling Class to an extremely low Socioeconomic Class. But of course, they are all equal.You are probably too young to remember that this was the reason the Soviet Union prevented travel and immigration to all but a select, believed to be loyal, few. And this was the reason behind the Berlin Wall also. There were so many talented people leaving the Soviet Union that they literally locked you in. The emigration was called The Brain Drain, because anyone with a lick of sense and a brain was trying to get out, unless they had a cushy position with the government, or skills so rare they were willing to pay them 10 X more than the Proletariat that they were willing to stay. And if you try to cause insurrection and revolution, you are either killed or sent to Siberia where you die early. Even Putin saw that as wrong, at least to a degree. That's why you hard core Commies hate Putin and Russia and are afraid of what you want to label "collusion".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ArlUSVDQIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLGzRXY5Bw

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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by TC Talks » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:08 pm

bmw wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:51 am
Whether it "works" isn't even the point. The point is that under Communism, you must give up significant individual freedom. At a purely philosophical level, it is not the role of the government to tell man how to run his affairs.
It's always the people in power who are threatened by other ideas. Everything you complain about is also true in our government if you are honest.


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by Bryce » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:53 pm

NOT the way it was originally intended.


New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.

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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:57 pm

Bryce wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:53 pm
NOT the way it was originally intended.
Communism has never been practiced the way Marx intended.


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by TC Talks » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:58 pm

You can't compare Marx's Manifesto with Stalin's governance. That would be like comparing Jefferson to Trump


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:24 pm

Bryce wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:53 pm
NOT the way it was originally intended.
There is 0 chance we ever could or would have stuck to 100% original intent forever... the universe isn’t built that way...



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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by bmw » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:10 am

You also can't compare a theoretical Communist utopia to an actual capitalist form of government and all of its shortfalls; either compare Communism in its actual, tried forms to our government as it actually exists or compare both at a theoretical level. I would suggest that ours wins in either comparison.



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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:55 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
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I know it's counter-intuitive for you Neo-Fascists to embrace knowledge, but read this, it's free...

February 26 is Manifesto Day
The Communist Manifesto is divided into a preamble and four sections, the last of these a short conclusion. The introduction begins by proclaiming: "A spectre is haunting Europe—the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre". Pointing out that parties everywhere—including those in government and those in the opposition—have flung the "branding reproach of communism" at each other, the authors infer from this that the powers-that-be acknowledge communism to be a power in itself. Subsequently, the introduction exhorts Communists to openly publish their views and aims, to "meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself".

The first section of the Manifesto, "Bourgeois and Proletarians", elucidates the materialist conception of history, that "the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles". Societies have always taken the form of an oppressed majority exploited under the yoke of an oppressive minority. In capitalism, the industrial working class, or proletariat, engage in class struggle against the owners of the means of production, the bourgeoisie. As before, this struggle will end in a revolution that restructures society, or the "common ruin of the contending classes". The bourgeoisie, through the "constant revolutionising of production [and] uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions" have emerged as the supreme class in society, displacing all the old powers of feudalism. The bourgeoisie constantly exploits the proletariat for its labour power, creating profit for themselves and accumulating capital. However, in doing so the bourgeoisie serves as "its own grave-diggers"; the proletariat inevitably will become conscious of their own potential and rise to power through revolution, overthrowing the bourgeoisie.

"Proletarians and Communists", the second section, starts by stating the relationship of conscious communists to the rest of the working class. The communists' party will not oppose other working-class parties, but unlike them, it will express the general will and defend the common interests of the world's proletariat as a whole, independent of all nationalities. The section goes on to defend communism from various objections, including claims that it advocates free love or disincentivises people from working. The section ends by outlining a set of short-term demands—among them a progressive income tax; abolition of inheritances and private property; abolition of child labour; free public education; nationalisation of the means of transport and communication; centralisation of credit via a national bank; expansion of publicly owned etc.—the implementation of which would result in the precursor to a stateless and classless society.

The third section, "Socialist and Communist Literature", distinguishes communism from other socialist doctrines prevalent at the time—these being broadly categorized as Reactionary Socialism; Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism; and Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism. While the degree of reproach toward rival perspectives varies, all are dismissed for advocating reformism and failing to recognize the pre-eminent revolutionary role of the working class. "Position of the Communists in Relation to the Various Opposition Parties", the concluding section of the Manifesto, briefly discusses the communist position on struggles in specific countries in the mid-nineteenth century such as France, Switzerland, Poland and Germany, this last being "on the eve of a bourgeois revolution" and predicts that a world revolution will soon follow. It ends by declaring an alliance with the democratic socialists, boldly supporting other communist revolutions and calling for united international proletarian action—"Working Men of All Countries, Unite!".
https://books.google.com/books/download ... _Party.pdf
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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by audiophile » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:28 pm

The Communist Talks


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by windsor » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:13 pm

check off how many of their goals have been achieved from this list.

Think of Detroit of 1963 and Detroit 2019.Were already under it in many forms.......

https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/wa ... -1963.html


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Re: Celebrate the Communist Manifesto with me

Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:00 pm

audiophile wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:28 pm
The Communist Talks
Excellent. BTW the Russian government structure is closer to ours than communism.


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