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Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

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Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by Deleted User 12047 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:28 pm

From All Access: The Media Action Network is asking for the FCC to require the ALEX JONES program be correctly labeled as laid out in FCC guidelines: “If a station airs a disclaimer before the broadcast that clearly characterizes the program as fiction … the program is presumed not to pose foreseeable public harm.”
Commented MAC Director SUE WILSON, "This is not about taking JONES off the air or interfering with his First Amendment rights. This is about licensees' responsibility to the public interest. Individuals in JONES' markets from coast to coast are asking that stations air the appropriate disclaimer, and that the FCC simply enforce its own rule to protect the public from harmful hoaxes."

On the Media Action Network website, they have this list of actual radio stations running Alex Jones, including WAAM in Ann Arbor - which at one time was an All Liberal All The Time format.

https://www.mediaactioncenter.net/2018/ ... jones.html



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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by bmw » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:42 pm

Radio Sucks wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:28 pm
Commented MAC Director SUE WILSON, "This is not about taking JONES off the air or interfering with his First Amendment rights...
I'm calling BS on this one. Being forced, by government, to air a disclaimer that what you're about to say is "fiction" is absolutely an infringement on one's First Amendment rights.



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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by Deleted User 14803 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:09 pm

Liberal BS that’s clearly what it is.



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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by ZenithCKLW » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:12 pm

I think Alex Jones is despicable, but how is this enforceable? What about the element of time, and proving intent? And how far does this reach? Does the news media similarly have to declare “fact”, and if new info comes out to disprove that content, are they liable?

This reeks of the Fairness Doctrine.



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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by TC Talks » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:16 pm

This is Hillarious!
Three cheers to whoever took the time to get this done. Personally, I wouldn't make the effort to piss on him if he happened to be laying on the bathroom floor at my favorite taproom.


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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by Turkeytop » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:48 pm

They'll have to run a disclaimer banner across the screen whenever Trump addresses the Nation.


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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by bmw » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:39 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:16 pm
This is Hillarious!
Three cheers to whoever took the time to get this done. Personally, I wouldn't make the effort to piss on him if he happened to be laying on the bathroom floor at my favorite taproom.
This isn't about Alex Jones. It is about Freedom of Speech. He's already been taken off of the major digital platforms. But that isn't enough. Some people won't stop until he is utterly destroyed. Kinda pathetic, actually. Also I've made it clear that I think he's a nutjob - but a nutjob with a right to speak.



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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by Deleted User 12047 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:30 pm

You're not free to speak by running into a crowded theatre and screaming "Fire".
You're not free to speak by standing on the sidewalk by the White House and declaring you are going to kill the President.
You're not free to speak as an FCC licensed radio station to tell listeners that "$100 is hidden somewhere in Your City USA and all you have to do is find it" or any other "hoax".
Some lawyer at the FCC got a lot of money when she wrote:"The station may be in violation (of the hoax rule) if: (1) the licensee knows this information is false; (2) it is foreseeable that broadcast of the information will cause substantial public harm; and (3) broadcast of the information does in fact directly cause substantial public harm."
Broadcast Law Blog, I've copied the link below, wrote:This rule was adopted in the early 1990s after several incidents that were well-publicized in the broadcast industry, including one case where the on-air personalities at a station falsely claimed that they had been taken hostage, and another case where a station broadcast bulletins reporting that a local trash dump had exploded like a volcano and was spewing burning trash.
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Alex Jones claimed among many other things that Sandy Hook school shooting never happened. He stated it as fact, repeating it often and used that "fact" to promote his positions and sell his sponsors products.

So what's the difference between the wacky morning show April Fools Day prank and Alex Jones? This, in my mind, has nothing to do with free speech. If some "liberal" radio show started claiming that Mike Pence was a devil worshipper and isn't really a human, I would think all of you screaming free speech would want to shut that down, wouldn't you?



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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by bmw » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:05 pm

The exceptions to free speech that you have cited are designed to prevent riots and/or mass panic. What has Alex Jones specifically stated that could lead to or has led to mass panic or riots in the streets?



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Post by TC Talks » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:00 pm

Tuck your tits back in your pants on First Amendment issues fellas. Being restricted from social media platforms is not a First Amendment issue. They are all private corporations. No one is telling him he can't stand next to a freeway screaming his head off. No one has taken his website down, they are merely choosing not to promote his garbage.

The organization that suggested he be labeled fiction has the same right to free speech as Mr. turd and they have expressed their opinion. The FCC has the ability to restrict speech as our buddy George Carlin pointed out years ago. He is indecent.

Have fun tiptoeing through this particular topic I'm still laughing my ass off about it.


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Post by Mega Hertz » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:50 pm

Just passing by to get the obligatory Obama/Clintons reference in.


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Post by Lester The Nightfly » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:04 am

In related news: Roger Stone has entered an agreement with Chinese businessman Guo Wengui to retract statements Stone made against Wengui plublished on the Infowars website in lieu of $100M cash settlement.

A copy of the settlement document: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/ ... cle_inline

So it would appear the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida has given it's blessing confirming a frequent Jones/Inforwars contributor trades in false (or might we say works of fiction) narratives.

[EDIT: Even better, FOX News headline: "Roger Stone apologizes over false statements spread on InfoWars, settles lawsuit"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roger- ... es-lawsuit
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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by Mega Hertz » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:33 am

Just had a male frog hit on me. Who said this was fiction???


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Re: Alex Jones Labeled as “Fiction?” One Group’s Effort

Post by Deleted User 12047 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:22 pm

After my explanation of “free speech” above, someone who disagrees wrote:The exceptions to free speech that you have cited are designed to prevent riots and/or mass panic. What has Alex Jones specifically stated that could lead to or has led to mass panic or riots in the streets?
Of course you’re right. Daily screaming that “this mass shooting is only a ‘false flag’ designed to set up a method to take away all your guns” couldn’t possibly lead to any sort of riot by gun owners wanting to protect their rights against a “socialist” government. How silly of me.



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Post by TC Talks » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:33 pm

Radio Sucks wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:22 pm
After my explanation of “free speech” above, someone who disagrees wrote:The exceptions to free speech that you have cited are designed to prevent riots and/or mass panic. What has Alex Jones specifically stated that could lead to or has led to mass panic or riots in the streets?
Of course you’re right. Daily screaming that “this mass shooting is only a ‘false flag’ designed to set up a method to take away all your guns” couldn’t possibly lead to any sort of riot by gun owners wanting to protect their rights against a “socialist” government. How silly of me.
I always like threats of unknown violence from faceless hordes scare me into compliance. Trump's been trying to float that flag for a while nobody's paying attention to it.


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