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The impeachment/indictment thread

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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:59 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:26 am
NS8401 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:43 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:06 pm
You lefties are getting way too excited. You had better lower your expectations now or else risk real depression setting in when Trump wins re-election in 2020.
He’s underwater by a 60-38 margin... you can’t win with 38% approval...
The razor thin margins in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that squeaked him by no longer exist either... he’s in trouble and everybody knows it...
Perhaps you missed the mid-terms. Who does he have left to support him? He's lost the suburbs, lost women and he will soon lose workers. There aren't enough toothless racists in the country to win the party's nomination.
His approval among Republicans is 80% or so... they are fine with Trump... the people you describe that went blue are no longer Republicans...



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by bmw » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:26 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:43 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:06 pm
You lefties are getting way too excited. You had better lower your expectations now or else risk real depression setting in when Trump wins re-election in 2020.
He’s underwater by a 60-38 margin... you can’t win with 38% approval...

The razor thin margins in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that squeaked him by no longer exist either... he’s in trouble and everybody knows it...
I thought you were a real clear politics guy. RCP has it 42.6-53.3. You cited the lone outlier in the polling data - well done.

His RCP average is virtually unchanged for the past half a year. As I said in another thread that was probably lost in the server crash - you Trump Haters aren't trying hard enough. Any normal politician would have poll numbers in the 20s if he had to deal with what Trump has had to deal with from the media. Yet, Trump remains virtually unscathed - even 2 years after being elected.

As to WI, MI, and PA - I'm confident the democrats will nominate a far-left loon who can't win those states.



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by TC Talks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:12 pm

Here's the tally so far...

Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating possible links between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, has issued more than 100 criminal counts against 33 people and three companies. On Thursday, Michael D. Cohen, a former lawyer of Donald J. Trump, pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about his efforts to pursue a Trump Tower deal in Moscow during the 2016 presidential campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... arges.html


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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:08 pm

bmw wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:26 pm
NS8401 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:43 am
bmw wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:06 pm
You lefties are getting way too excited. You had better lower your expectations now or else risk real depression setting in when Trump wins re-election in 2020.
He’s underwater by a 60-38 margin... you can’t win with 38% approval...

The razor thin margins in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that squeaked him by no longer exist either... he’s in trouble and everybody knows it...
I thought you were a real clear politics guy. RCP has it 42.6-53.3. You cited the lone outlier in the polling data - well done.

His RCP average is virtually unchanged for the past half a year. As I said in another thread that was probably lost in the server crash - you Trump Haters aren't trying hard enough. Any normal politician would have poll numbers in the 20s if he had to deal with what Trump has had to deal with from the media. Yet, Trump remains virtually unscathed - even 2 years after being elected.

As to WI, MI, and PA - I'm confident the democrats will nominate a far-left loon who can't win those states.
53-42 isn’t exactly celebration worthy... you can’t win that way either... and given how the Democrats have been nominating centrists where you need a centrist to win your odds aren’t very good of getting a loon... they seem primed to nominate a Midwesterner at this point...



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by TC Talks » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:40 pm

Looks like Kushner is on deck.. Who's turn is it to tell me this is a which hunt? :lol
A German bank reportedly has evidence of “suspicious transactions” related to Jared Kushner’s family accounts and is willing to hand the information over to Russia probe special counsel Robert Mueller.

The board chairman of the banking giant Deutsche Bank, Paul Achleitner, called for an internal investigation and found troubling results, German business magazine Manager Magazin reported in its print edition released on Friday.

Deutsche Bank—a major lender to President Donald Trump and his son-in-law and senior White House advisor Kushner, according to Mother Jones—provided the results to the Federal Financial Supervisory Authority, which is Germany’s bank regulatory agency and referred to as BaFin.

“Achleitner’s internal detectives were embarrassed to deliver their interim report regarding real estate tycoon Kushner to the financial regulator BaFin,” states the Manager Magazin story translated from German to English. “Their finding: There are indications that Donald Trump’s son-in-law or persons or companies close to him could have channeled suspicious monies through Deutsche Bank as part of their business dealings.”


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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by TC Talks » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm

Here we go... This is the beginning... In January, Trump will fall apart. Any thoughts Trumptards?
Donald Trump’s private company was “actively negotiating” a business deal in Moscow with a sanctioned Russian bank during the 2016 election campaign, according to a memo by Democratic lawmakers investigating possible collusion between the campaign and the Kremlin.

The statement by Democrats on the House intelligence committee, who have had access to internal Trump Organization documents and interviewed key witnesses, raises new questions about the trump organization’s financial ties to russia and its possible willingness to deal with a bank that had been placed under us sanctions.

trump has personally denied that he ever had business dealings with russia. in a tweet that was published shortly before his 2017 inauguration, he said he had “nothing to do with russia – no deals, no loans, no nothing”.

but doubts about the veracity of that statement began to emerge last august, when the new york times published emails from a longtime business associate of trump called felix sater, who boasted that he had lined up financing for a trump tower in moscow with vtb bank, which is under us sanctions.

it is not clear from the democrats’ memo whether the deal they are referring to is the same deal mentioned in sater’s emails.

in another email obtained by the newspaper, sater wrote that he would get “putin on this programme and we will get donald elected”.

trump eventually signed a non-binding “letter of intent” for the project to go forward and his attorney, michael cohen, told the new york timesthat they had discussed the project three times. The Moscow project did not go ahead.


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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by TC Talks » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:23 am

Here is the Trump win of the day👍
WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors cited the involvement of a onetime top fund-raiser to President Trump on Friday in a scheme to launder millions of dollars into the country to help a flamboyant Malaysian financier end a Justice Department investigation.

Elliott Broidy, a Los Angeles-based businessman who was a finance vice chairman of Mr. Trump’s 2016 campaign and inauguration committees, was paid to lobby the Trump administration to try to end an investigation related to the embezzlement of billions of dollars from a Malaysian state-owned fund, according to court filings made public on Friday.

The filings were released in connection with a guilty plea entered by George Higginbotham, a former Justice Department employee. Mr. Higginbotham admitted to conspiring to lie to banks about the source of tens of millions of dollars he funneled into the United States from the Malaysian financier Jho Low, who federal authorities say masterminded a scheme to loot the 1 Malaysia Development Berhad fund, also known as 1MDB.

Mr. Higginbotham, who left the Justice Department in August, was not involved in the department’s investigation of Mr. Low, and is cooperating with prosecutors.

In his guilty plea, Mr. Higginbotham admitted that he and the entertainer and businessman Pras Michel, a former member of the Fugees, a defunct hip-hop group, arranged for millions of dollars of Mr. Low’s money to be transferred to a law firm owned by Mr. Broidy’s wife to pay them to try to end the 1MDB investigation.


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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by bmw » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:34 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
Here we go... This is the beginning... In January, Trump will fall apart. Any thoughts Trumptards?
Define "fall apart." Fall off a wall like Humpty Dumpty? Have a nervous breakdown? Heart attack? Impeachment? Resignation? Off to prison? What is it exactly that you envision?



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:54 pm

bmw wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:34 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:50 pm
Here we go... This is the beginning... In January, Trump will fall apart. Any thoughts Trumptards?
Define "fall apart." Fall off a wall like Humpty Dumpty? Have a nervous breakdown? Heart attack? Impeachment? Resignation? Off to prison? What is it exactly that you envision?
Probably a slow disintegration of his power network...



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by screen glare » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:59 pm

Whatever happens - Trump did it to himself. He is his own worst enemy. The mad man has set nothing but extreme negativity into motion. Starting with pervasive fear. Karmically (so to speak) his wave of negative energy will remain in motion as it comes right back in his path. Nobody knows what “fall apart” may mean. But whatever it is he has authored it himself.



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by bmw » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:01 pm

screen glare wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:59 pm
...Nobody knows what “fall apart” may mean...
So it is just what I suspected. Vague wishful thinking.



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by TC Talks » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:34 am

Now his bank has been raided...
On Thursday morning, German police raided the Frankfurt headquarters of Deutsche Bank, President Donald Trump’s biggest lender, in connection with a money laundering investigation. The raid focused on an alleged money laundering operation that may have involved as much as $350 million and was exposed with the 2015 release of the Panama Papers—a trove of documents detailing the creation and use of offshore bank accounts. The investigation is the latest in a string of scandals and financial setbacks for the bank, which holds the mortgages on several of Trump’s most prized properties, including his Doral golf resort and his Washington, DC, luxury hotel. Speculation for months has swirled around the possibility that another company could take over the ailing bank—including rumors that the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, a Chinese state-owned bank, might be interested. This is significant because any entity that controls a large chunk of Trump’s debt holds a certain amount of leverage over him—an unprecedented situation in the history of the US presidency.

Trump has a long relationship with Deutsche Bank dating back to the early 2000s. At the time, most US banks refused to loan money to Trump following his string of bankruptcies and Atlantic City failures. But Deutsche Bank continued to let him borrow hundreds of millions of dollars—as of his inauguration, Trump owed the German bank as much as $364 million. Once a powerful player in international banking, Deutsche Bank has paid out billions in settlements to both US and European regulators for its role in the 2008 financial crisis and other scandals. When Trump took office, he refused to divest from his company, meaning he continues to owe the bank money—several of the loans are personally guaranteed by the president—even as the Department of Justice has opened new investigations into the bank’s activities.

In 2017, the bank paid regulators $670 million in fines for its involvement with “mirror trades” in Russia—a complicated scheme to allegedly help wealthy sanctioned Russians move currency out of the country. Deutsche Bank is also embroiled in a scandal involving Danske Bank, a Danish company, which allegedly was involved in laundering billions of dollars from Russia. Danske is under heavy scrutiny from the Justice Department and European regulators, and Deutsche Bank has reportedly been contacted by US investigators for its role in handling some of Danske’s suspect transactions.

Thursday’s raid is not related to either of those scandals. In a statement, the bank confirmed it had been raided in connection with offshore transactions revealed in the Panama Papers, and said it is cooperating with the investigation.

The fines and ongoing controversies have sent Deutsche Bank into a financial tailspin and tanked its stock price, which in turn has raised the possibility of a takeover. In July, Deutsche Bank’s stock briefly rallied after it was reported by the German business press that JPMorgan and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China were both interested in taking big stakes in the troubled bank. A scenario in which the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, which is the country’s largest bank, took control of Trump’s mortgages would potentially pose an enormous conflict of interest for Trump, if not a national security threat. That said, the bank is already the single largest tenant in Trump Tower, and its lease is due to expire in October 2019, setting up another major conflict.

Even as it stands, Deutsche Bank’s ownership is rife with conflict of interest landmines for the president. Currently, Chinese financial giant HNA Group, which has sparred with American regulators, owns 8 percent of the German bank—though it is under pressure to sell that piece. American hedge fund Cerberus Capital—co-founded by Stephen Feinberg, a major Trump donor whom the president appointed to head his intelligence advisory board— owns another 3 percent.

The White House did not return a request for comment on whether the administration has any plans for how to handle conflict of interest concerns if Deutsche Bank is taken over.


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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by TC Talks » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:35 am

bmw wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:01 pm
screen glare wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:59 pm
...Nobody knows what “fall apart” may mean...
So it is just what I suspected. Vague wishful thinking.
You think? I don't


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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by bmw » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:32 pm

You still haven't said specifically what it is you think will happen to him that will cause him to "fall apart." If you're just hoping for something bad, but you don't know what that bad thing is, then it does not go beyond wishful thinking.



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Re: The impeachment/indictment thread

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:54 pm

bmw wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:32 pm
You still haven't said specifically what it is you think will happen to him that will cause him to "fall apart." If you're just hoping for something bad, but you don't know what that bad thing is, then it does not go beyond wishful thinking.
I’ll bite... indictment or impeachment (need not be a crime but only what congress thinks is a high crime and misdemeanor) for conspiracy or obstruction...



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