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Let the recounts begin

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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:35 am

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:29 am
Y M Ionhere wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:07 pm
Voter fraud. Lose a little bit? Just create new ballots.
Why do we NEVER hear anything about uncounted ballots until Dems lose by a little? The fact that there no outcry about uncounted ballots and yet they suddenly appear in a close race makes it impossible for me to believe the ballots are legit.
Gillums anti law-enforcement positions are beyond radical, and make him unsuitable for any office. Criminals will take over the state while cops get shot or quit. The whole law-abiding majority will lose. Anyone supporting a radical likes him is a traitor working against the safety and vitality of our nation. F*** him and all the treasonists who voted for him. You are all enemies of the people and the first responders protecting us from the people Gilluom will allow to run amok.
You sound nervous.
(Which, by the way was Andrew Gillum's reply to Trump's similarly unhinged rant about the election)
The right is completely unhinged over the Democrats win...



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Turkeytop » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:45 am

"Massive voter fraud" without one iota of evidence.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Y M Ionhere » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:30 am

I believe what Gillum stands for is exactly what the founding fathers stood against and what the constitution was intended to curb. He is also on record saying that police should not draw a weapon. Fact is, violent people are out there and willing to hurt others. His passive, anti-police stance will allow criminals to be more emboldened, police to quit, and too few new recruits. Look at Flint or Detroit, where crime has remained high. Due to inadequate staffing, and apply that to a whole state. Quit your pesky partisan bias and realize the guy is a radical who is a menace to the safety of Floridas most vulnerable and a disgrace to our constitution
Voting for him means you are more interrsted in partisan power than the safety of citizens and the integrity of the constitution. You need to put the country and its people above partisanship when you have someone that extreme.



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Y M Ionhere » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:41 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:45 am
"Massive voter fraud" without one iota of evidence.
Findong new, supposedly uncounted ballots in their favor? Ballots that supposedly were uncounted as if thats normal? Why isnt anyone ever talking about uncounted ballots until theres a recount where suddenly new ballots need to be included? Either uncounted ballots are common and always swept under the rug, which is seriously messed up, or there were no uncounted ballots and they had to add new ones to win. Its highly suspicious. Proof or not, its very fishy and the silence about ballots not being counted tells me it either isnt happening or is a sneaky tool someone is using.



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Matt » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:53 am

Y M Ionhere wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:41 am
Turkeytop wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:45 am
"Massive voter fraud" without one iota of evidence.
Findong new, supposedly uncounted ballots in their favor? Ballots that supposedly were uncounted as if thats normal? Why isnt anyone ever talking about uncounted ballots until theres a recount where suddenly new ballots need to be included? Either uncounted ballots are common and always swept under the rug, which is seriously messed up, or there were no uncounted ballots and they had to add new ones to win. Its highly suspicious. Proof or not, its very fishy and the silence about ballots not being counted tells me it either isnt happening or is a sneaky tool someone is using.
Perhaps he was referring to Stacey Abrams in Georgia making outlandish claims...

Brian Kemp and Ron DeSantis have won their elections and should be preparing for their transitions to office. Can you IMAGINE if the roles were reversed and the black democrats had won their races and the actual winners (Kemp and DeSantis) were carrying on like those two are? I do understand that in Florida it is close enough for there to be a machine recount. Magically "finding" ballots reeks of fraud OR massive incompetence. Abrams is a joke, as she's not even contesting the fact that she LOST, she's just hoping Kemp somehow ends up with less than 50% of the vote, an unlikely scenario. I do think that Rick Scott also won, but that's close enough to re-count.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by craig11152 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:22 am

My one and only post in this thread was lost in the recent board "malfunction" but I think its worth re-mentioning given the amount of national news these recounts seem to garner.
Fairvote.org analyzed elections between 2000 and 2015 across the country. Only 3 statewide recounts over turned original results and all 3 of those had original voting margins of less that 250 votes out of hundreds of thousands to millions cast.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by screen glare » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:50 pm

Count each and every vote. It’s the democratic thing to do.

Unless your a republican - favoring every trick and brain-stormed tactic invented so far - to try to keep certain votes suppressed.

Hell - Red Tide Rick is popping out every vein in his neck as he strains to constrain a complete count in Florida. And no matter who is ultimately victorious - he’s oddly entertaining to watch.



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Mega Hertz » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:01 pm

Republicans blame Democrats for cheating. Democrats blame Republicans for cheating. How about an overhaul of the voting system? Beats having doubts and accusations every election.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:55 pm

Mega Hertz wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:01 pm
Republicans blame Democrats for cheating. Democrats blame Republicans for cheating. How about an overhaul of the voting system? Beats having doubts and accusations every election.
Gee... what a thought...



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by screen glare » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:26 pm

Generally - Democrats favor making voting easier. And Republicans favor making voting less easy. Using many different tactics.

Voter fraud is proven over and over to be a non issue. Which is why Trump’s special voter fraud commission hardly ever met, did any work, and was disbanded. A ploy to support his lie that mass voter fraud is to blame for him badly losing the popular vote.

It would be swell to make all voting rules and regs and equipment and processes uniform across our nation. But it is a state’s rights issue. And nearly every state wants the freedom to do its own thing.



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by screen glare » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:35 pm

BTW - I notice Red Tide Rick showed up for the photo session with other newly elected US senators. Senator Nelson - his incumbant election opponent did not show up. Guess one is a gentleman and the other an obnoxious prick - since both men’s votes are still being recounted in Florida.



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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Mega Hertz » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:41 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:55 pm
Mega Hertz wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:01 pm
Republicans blame Democrats for cheating. Democrats blame Republicans for cheating. How about an overhaul of the voting system? Beats having doubts and accusations every election.
Gee... what a thought...
I know. It's that damn crazy thinking again! Sometimes I just go off the rails.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Turkeytop » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:42 pm

When the party in power runs the election in their state, it's a bit of a stretch to accuse the other party of rigging the election.

Maybe the uncounted ballots that suddenly turn up were intended not to be found.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by TC Talks » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:41 pm

Y M Ionhere wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:14 pm
There are two things I think are a direct conflict with our constitution and our safety
1)Socialism/ Democratic Socialism (the very thing that I believe our founding fathers wrote the constitution to avoid seeing implemented)
2)Anti-police attitudes (it enables the criminals to prey on the rest of us)
And I think you could benefit from more tin foil... Trump has trampled the constitution, please, pay attention to your surroundings.


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Re: Let the recounts begin

Post by Matt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:36 am

Turkeytop wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:42 pm
When the party in power runs the election in their state, it's a bit of a stretch to accuse the other party of rigging the election.

Maybe the uncounted ballots that suddenly turn up were intended not to be found.
Election administration is VERY local. Broward and Palm Beach have local Democrat control.


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