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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:54 am 
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Location: Welcome to the airwaves, WNOC 89.7 FM !
IIRC, they are still a TRANSLATOR station, meaning that they have to be a rebroadcast of an existing station. BUT, they have to stay within 94.5's circle of trust.
ALSO, The Zone is currently operating ILLEGALLY, as they are NOT a rebroadcast, as 94.5's HD-2 signal, as the HD signal is off, and without an HD-2, they need a STA to do what they're doing. Whatch it boys, you're treading dangerous FCC territory.
I agree, put the Zone on the new WPFX BG tower and on 98.3 - that would be a good mix for the Zone. They could lease their 100.9 to the new Catholic station going on the tower with WPFX.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:17 am 
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WOHO wrote:
IIRC, they are still a TRANSLATOR station, meaning that they have to be a rebroadcast of an existing station. BUT, they have to stay within 94.5's circle of trust.
ALSO, The Zone is currently operating ILLEGALLY, as they are NOT a rebroadcast, as 94.5's HD-2 signal, as the HD signal is off, and without an HD-2, they need a STA to do what they're doing. Whatch it boys, you're treading dangerous FCC territory.
I agree, put the Zone on the new WPFX BG tower and on 98.3 - that would be a good mix for the Zone. They could lease their 100.9 to the new Catholic station going on the tower with WPFX.
Maybe turning the HD signal off, if that's what they plan to do, removes some legal restrictions and paves the way to a better/stronger signal. All I know is 100.9's signal in Sylvania is absolutely lousy at night/early morning with bleedover from WBNO. Anxious to hear if 100.7 is any better, though I sometimes get Lansing's WITL on 100.7 even more than the Windsor station on that frequency.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:15 pm 
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So I take it there not moving to 100.7fm?

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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:27 pm 
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Howard Dean wrote:
So I take it there not moving to 100.7fm?

If not, what a useless promo they played once an hour for at least three weeks. Haven't paid attention lately to know if they're still playing it or not.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:37 pm 
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DJ just announced the switch to 100.7 will happen at 3 P.M. today Wednesday.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:18 pm 
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Interesting. I'm in Florida right now but will be up in Toledo in a couple weeks to check it out.

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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:04 pm 
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I'll be down there next week. I wonder if CKUE will affect it much.


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 Post subject: Read FCC Application for the Zone for laughs and giggles
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:32 pm 
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Location: Welcome to the airwaves, WNOC 89.7 FM !
You should read "The Zone's" application to the FCC - very interesting reading.

First, they (Cumulus) admit that operating on 100.7 WILL interfere with CKUE-FM-1 (on 264B1) -BUT- all the interference will occur in the USA instead of in Canada, so screw the Canadians.

Second, it appears that WRIF ASKED listeners to write-in and bitch about adjacent interference from the Zone, as the emails are in the application - phone numbers and all, and they are all worded in such a way that you can tell that they are 'promted' responses about how they'll miss Drew & Mike, etc...real BS if you ask me.
What also really gave it away was the guy who has an HD radio complaining about interference from 100.9 messing with WRIF - I'm calling him out on this one - HD radios have a razor sharp filter on FM and you can easily pick-up distant first adjacents. For example, on my HD radio I can hear the quite distant and weak 103.9 from Adrian with no problem or interference from the nearly local 50KW WCKY on 103.7FM - so I know that email is bunk, as is the 100.9 vs 101.1FM.
On an old analog tuner yep, WRIF would be spotty, but most of these "listeners" are not in the WRIF 60dBu protected range.

Anyhow, FCC approved change from 100.9 to 100.7 effective 7.28.2010 for W265CB (call letters which will have to change as they're now on channel 264). Also, I doubt they can increase their power as their translator signal is almost outside the 60dBu range of WXKR, and their 54dBu signal does overlap outside the XKR area, so they are at max power with their omni antenna.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:17 pm 
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I'm surprised Riff cares enough about Toledo listeners to get them to write in to the FCC. Outside of summertime, reception of 101 can be spotty here anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
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Why shouldn't Riff and their advertisers care about Toledo? It's the second largest city in the area, and if advertisers in say downriver can bring in customers from Toledo, then it's an added bonus.

Honestly, I'm shocked WIOT and WRVF doesn't try and do more around Monroe and the southern suburbs. Could pick up a small portion of the market, and advertising rates are (I'm assuming) cheaper.


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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:13 am 
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Here's 100.7 CKUE's proposed signal coverage....

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----I know that I could rarely pick it up in Toledo, even choppy at night.

I think The Zone's better off here.

Anyone in Toledo have any feedback to post about their signal now???

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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:28 pm 
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Location: Welcome to the airwaves, WNOC 89.7 FM !
My only beef about The Zone is that they should have gotten rid of their old liners that they played today with "100.9FM" on them!


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 Post subject: Re: Read FCC Application for the Zone for laughs and giggles
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:12 pm 
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You should read "The Zone's" application to the FCC - very interesting reading.

First, they (Cumulus) admit that operating on 100.7 WILL interfere with CKUE-FM-1 (on 264B1) -BUT- all the interference will occur in the USA instead of in Canada, so screw the Canadians.


The Canadian's plugged the border with FM allocations decades ago, many of them still not on the air, under the US-Canadian treaty.

Now Cumulus is doing nothing that isn't allowed by the treaty, so stop blaming them for following the rules!

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 Post subject: Re: 100.9 The Zone's signal
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:38 pm 
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CKUE-1's signal usually fades away very quickly south of Monroe (under normal conditions), so it seems to me any interference from 100.7 The Zone should be over a very localized area and probably well outside CKUE-1's protected contour.

I don't blame The Riff and its listeners for speaking up. Jamming the Riff's signal is bullshit, in my mind. I'm sure that's part of the reason Cumulus initially chose 100.9. WRIF serves as a P2 listening option for WIOT's P1s, thus hurting WXKR.

I extend kudos to Riff for preserving Toledo area listeners' ability to retain OTA reception of their station, as well as defeating the proposed translator on 100.9 in the Pt. Huron / Sarnia area a while back.

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Also, I doubt they can increase their power as their translator signal is almost outside the 60dBu range of WXKR, and their 54dBu signal does overlap outside the XKR area, so they are at max power with their omni antenna.


Out of curiosity, what airs on 105.5-HD2, if anything? Isn't this translator on the same tower as Star 105.5?

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