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Channel moves...and power changes??

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Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by organman95 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:24 pm

Ok, what the hell is the purpose of the diminishing more spectrum?? Is the FCC end-goal to get rid of OTA television?

I mean come on...decreasing power at the same time of moving channels??

WPBN from Ch. 47 @ 500 kW to Ch. 35 @ 398 kW. Same height - What about the translator on 50?
WTOM from Ch. 35 @ 78 kW to Ch. 16 @ 37.8 kW. Increased height to keep same contour
WFUP from Ch. 45 @ 108 kW to Ch. 21 @ 66 kW. Increased height by literally 3 feet to keep same contour.

Side note, I find it odd that 45.1 FOX is 480i and 45.2 CBS is 1080i. Isn't that a bit backwards?



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by makitaman » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:09 pm

Ok, what the hell is the purpose of the diminishing more spectrum??

http://fortune.com/2017/04/19/tv-stations-channels-faq/ (this is the long answer) $$$$$$..........(short answer)

Only error in the story is the line 37 and above should say 38 and above.

UHF in the US will now be 14~36 RF



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by organman95 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:56 am

That's crap. There is PLENTY of spectrum out there. "Better wireless" yeah, well in a few years they'll take the rest of the UHF band. Then what?
The FCC has WAY too much power, in my opinion.



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by ftballfan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:02 am

One good thing about the channel moves: WCMW and WCWF will no longer be extremely short spaced to each other as both are moving off 21 (WCMW to 20 and WCWF to 15)



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by WC8KCY » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:10 pm

WPBN to 35? What about WLUC viewers in the UP located along the Lake Michigan shoreline? This represents a de facto very short spacing for viewers in these locations. More than a few 8-bay bowties will have to be taken down and replaced with yagis...for those who haven't already given up on watching WLUC over the air.


Eschew obfuscation.

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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by organman95 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:52 pm

Without looking up WLUC....does the power even reach the shoreline? Does WPBN even reach the shoreline?



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by ftballfan » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:32 am

WC8KCY wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:10 pm
WPBN to 35? What about WLUC viewers in the UP located along the Lake Michigan shoreline? This represents a de facto very short spacing for viewers in these locations. More than a few 8-bay bowties will have to be taken down and replaced with yagis...for those who haven't already given up on watching WLUC over the air.
WPBN and WLUC will be fully spaced (it's about 170 miles between their sticks).



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by wsummers » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:42 pm

WPBN has filed a CP modification to increase to 850 kw and WTOM to 250 kw.



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by tvbobn » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:30 pm

wsummers wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:42 pm
WPBN has filed a CP modification to increase to 850 kw and WTOM to 250 kw.
I don't know what the new CP modification is asking for exactly, but both WPBN and WTOM have directional antenna's in their current CP's.



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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by WC8KCY » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:07 am

ftballfan wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:32 am
WC8KCY wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:10 pm
WPBN to 35? What about WLUC viewers in the UP located along the Lake Michigan shoreline? This represents a de facto very short spacing for viewers in these locations. More than a few 8-bay bowties will have to be taken down and replaced with yagis...for those who haven't already given up on watching WLUC over the air.
WPBN and WLUC will be fully spaced (it's about 170 miles between their sticks).
Note the words "de facto".

The potentially disaffected viewers are right in the middle of that 170-mile stretch. Even with a directional antenna, some of the WPBN signal is going to make the straight shot across the lake and mess with WLUC in and around Escanaba, Gladstone, and Ford River.


Eschew obfuscation.

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Re: Channel moves...and power changes??

Post by organman95 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:56 am

WC8KCY wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:07 am
Note the words "de facto".

The potentially disaffected viewers are right in the middle of that 170-mile stretch. Even with a directional antenna, some of the WPBN signal is going to make the straight shot across the lake and mess with WLUC in and around Escanaba, Gladstone, and Ford River.
Do you really think the signal from WPBN would be strong enough to interfere with WLUC?



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