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Covers all of Northern Lower Michigan (from Ludington to Tawas northward), as well as the Straits Area and Soo Region.
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Post by litemix » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:06 pm

From the Bear Facebook Page

Good News! We are expanding and improving! We've made exciting signal changes effective on March 13, 2018:

WCHY 97.7 (3400 watts) will change to NEW FREQUENCY 95.3 fm (17,000 watts) on March 13th. However, WGFN will remain 98.1 fm.

This allows "Classic Rock the BEAR 98.1 / 95.3 a stronger signal to serve Boyne City, Charlevoix, Gaylord, Grayling, Petoskey and Rogers City.

Here's our new logo starting next Tuesday 3/13/18
Thanks for tuning in - Black Diamond Broadcasting
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Post by fmdxguy5678 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:24 pm

Interesting... I take it that 97.7 has been traded to the owner of what was once "Straits Country" for 95.3? Well, it's about time that The Bear was in Petoskey again. Good move by Black Diamond.


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Post by tipo'mitt » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:02 pm

Also, The Wings and Tigers have moved to WCBY.



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Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:37 pm

I agree that this is a good move for Black Diamond. This will make The Bear more competitive with KLT/KLZ in the northern reaches of the DMA.

I sure would love to know what the future holds in store for 97.7 MHz. Can Black Diamond retain that station?

I wonder if Black Diamond gave any thought to putting Classic Rock on 105.1 instead and moving the Active Rock format to 95.3? Such a move would reunite 98.1 & 105.1 under "The Bear" brand name, and common programming would then be found on neighboring frequencies (i.e. 95.3 & 95.5). Rock 105 must be doing well enough to where Black Diamond has no desire to downgrade it from a 43 kW/295 meter stick to a 17 kW/165 meter stick.

BTW, it wouldn't surprise me if Black Diamond pursues a power upgrade for WWSS. Its current specs are below the max for Class C2 stations. Assuming spacing requirements are met, WWSS would be upgradable to 40 kW. If the only station standing in the way is 95.5 WGFE (a soon-to-be sister station), I suspect FCC would be willing to grant a waiver.


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Post by organman95 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:02 am

I still think Del should have never changed the format of 105.1 and moved the tower, but that's my opinion...



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Post by Nelson » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:44 pm

I kind of like 105.1's format. There are several stations playing classic rock but not so many playing harder rock.



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Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:27 pm

Radio-Insight is reporting this deal is a straight-up swap.

The WWSS calls and format will supposedly move to 97.7.

The WCHY calls and Bear format (obviously) will move to 95.3.
I still think Del should have never changed the format of 105.1 and moved the tower, but that's my opinion...
Out of curiosity - why was the tower move problematic?


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Post by organman95 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:49 am

I didn't say the tower move is problematic as it stands now. I'm talking about the Classic Rock format on 105.1. Once WGFM was switched to "Rock 105" you notice basically all hell broke loose with figuring out how to cover all of WGFM's original area. Should have just left it alone, and had 94.5 and WAVC and/or WCKC the "Rock" format.

Then again, what do I know. I've never been involved in the financials or stations...



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Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:53 am

Ah...now I understand; thanks for clarifying.

When "Real Rock 105 and 95-5" were born, recall that The Bear remained on 98.1 TC & 107.1 Cadillac, with no tip o' the mitt signal (to your point) for a brief period of time.

Since then, The Bear has appeared on 94.5, then 97.7 and now 95.3 in the Straits area.

I suppose the thinking in retaining both The Bear and Real Rock / Rock 105 as brands is that the same staff (for the most part) could cover programming & sales functions for both stations. So, you've got synergy there. On a combined basis, I presume the thinking was that the stations would be able to get ratings that rival powerhouse KLT.

The game of musical chairs that was played with The Bear certainly stunk, though, for its listeners in Charlevoix, Emmet and Otsego counties. I think the reason The Bear was the red headed step child in terms of format/signal assignments in the far north is because 105.1 only earned so-so ratings with Classic Rock in the last year or two prior to the switch, and the thinking was a harder rocking, more contemporary format had the ability to generate larger ratings (given format exclusivity).

There are certainly other signal/format configurations that would've made for interesting possibilities.

As I recall, either Del or Northern Star (I cannot recall who was owner at the time) couldn't own both 94.5 MHz Mackinaw City and 97.7 MHz Cheboygan; owning both would violate FCC market ownership limits. So, 94.5 MHz was traded for 106.3 MHz, licensed to Onaway. A simple COL swap between those two stations was out of the question, since 94.5 MHz fails to provide a 70 dBu signal (or city grade signal) to Onaway.

I cannot help but wonder if all the aggravation foisted upon listeners in the straits area was "worth it" for Del (or Northern Star, as the case may be) to land an extra FM signal for the Straits region. It certainly worked out for Black Diamond as successor owner, though, as they were able to parlay the weak 97.7 MHz signal for a stronger 95.3 MHz signal.

I'd be curious to know how the signal reliability in the Petoskey & Harbor Springs regions compares between 94.5, 95.3 and 106.3.


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Post by organman95 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:49 am

Well, it would be a good idea (if it's possible, I haven't looked at other stations in the area) for 95.3 to become a 100 kW station, to cover all the WGFM used to cover. 97.7 was Del's station, as far as I know (at least when it signed on). Which that brings up another point...

Do any of the stations besides CBY and MKC have master control in Cheboygan? I mentioned in another thread that some weird phenomenon happened in the late 90s/early 2000s that when there are simulcasts in Traverse City, regardless of where the master control is located, the TC call sign is listed first. Not sure what prompted that.



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Post by Playswithtrucks » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:11 pm

WMKC, WCBY, WWMK.

Do any of the stations besides CBY and MKC have master control in Cheboygan?



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Post by fmdxguy5678 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:45 pm

Listen to 95.3 right now - the transition's being made a day early...


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Post by SpartanAM » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:18 pm

Seems like WWSS got the short end of the stick. Trading 17,000 watts for a 3400 watt stick?


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Post by litemix » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:19 pm

I think black diamond should get rid Of twister put on the bear on 92.1 houghton lake



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Post by MWmetalhead » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:44 pm

I don't see that ever happening. For starters, WUPS would have to gravitate toward more of an Adult Contemporary / pop-based classic hits format. That, in & of itself, is not out of the realm of possibility.

But what would be gained by dumping Country from 92.1 in favor of Classic Rock? You've already got KLT, Q100.3 and 107.1 The Drive hitting many of the same areas 92.1 reaches.

WUPS is the de facto Classic Rock station for the Mt. Pleasant & Clare areas, even though the station doesn't play Classic Rock exclusively. 92.1 WTWS doesn't reach Mt. Pleasant at all, and its signal in the Clare area is on the flimsy side.

P.S...I love the fact WUPS has brought back some of its classic jingles, but the TOH without the "We Deliver the Hits!" outro just sounds wrong!


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Post by Ed Joseph » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:27 pm

SpartanAM wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:18 pm
Seems like WWSS got the short end of the stick. Trading 17,000 watts for a 3400 watt stick?
WWSS = We Were Short Sticked! LOL!


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Post by Ed Joseph » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:32 pm

I have to drift a bit here.... I stopped listening to rock in the late 90's/early 2000's when all the Creed/Rage Against the Machine type stuff took ahold of the charts. So, whatever became of the old "AOR" format sound, new stuff by the old geezers like Seger, Petty, etc? What would you call a format that remained true to the "old classic rock" sound in currents? Yeah, I've been out of the "charts" loop for quite a while. Haven't seen a Billboard since around '95 or so.

Edit: My problem with Classic Rock" is it's WAY too shallow, too many "Hot 100" songs and not enough... well, "Hypnotized" by Fleetwood Mac type stuff, except on "deep tracks" hour. It'd be great to have a station play "old school" rock currents along with some CR and even a gold cut or two now and then.


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