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SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 12047 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:07 am

That's really what it comes down to for you, fear.

You fear people will have "too much" freedom. I say we don't have enough.

You fear certain people having a voice, having a vote, and having an opinion that differs from yours. How cute.
Just to be clear, I don't fear freedom. I fear ignorance and hardened partisanship. I fear someone who says "I GET TO DO WHAT I WANT REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK!" Which to me sounds like if you don't want to stop at a red light because you are in a hurry, it's your prerogative to blow right thru that intersection.

I fear someone who says "Yelling anything anywhere is protected by free speech." Which to me sounds like you can walk into any public space and yell anything you want, regardless of what might happen.

Freedom comes with consequences and responsibilities. You may have a different view than mine, and to be honest I may have misread some of yours (this is the Internet, and sometimes our true intents and views get scrambled as we try to type.) But from reading your posts, I'm given the strong impression that freedom, to you, lacks any responsibilities or need to deal with the consequences of your actions. Feel free to rebut.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by zzand » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:27 am

You nailed it Radio, you misunderstood nothing.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 9015 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVkTmnJkAN8

I just tried embedding this video 5 times and it wouldnt work. MW, pls move to xenforo.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 12047 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:36 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:It’s your freedom and choice to live in fear. I choose hope, love, acceptance, knowledge, truth, and beauty.
Good choices, but I'm sorry that actually reading what I wrote and responding to it wasn't one of them. You've chosen to take over this thread to continue your tirade against police, of which you may actually have a point. I'm not sure exactly who you are debating, but it isn't me. Take care, enjoy your life and your freedom.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:12 pm

It’s always against the police with Lovinlife 101, Every post that LL 101 writes is about the police.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by stopnswop2 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:33 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:24 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:12 pm
It’s always against the police with Lovinlife 101, Every post that LL 101 writes is about the police.
Prove it, and I’ll leave this forum altogether.

100% lie.
He meant 75 precent of your posts.
:p


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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:37 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:24 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:12 pm
It’s always against the police with Lovinlife 101, Every post that LL 101 writes is about the police.
Prove it, and I’ll leave this forum altogether.

100% lie.
Promises, Promises!



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:24 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:38 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:37 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:24 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:12 pm
It’s always against the police with Lovinlife 101, Every post that LL 101 writes is about the police.
Prove it, and I’ll leave this forum altogether.

100% lie.
Promises, Promises!
Well, that one wasn’t about cops, so you’ll continue seeing me!
I can’t see you now :barf ,Thank God!



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by screen glare » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:52 am

Steve, you are correct. LL 101 is almost always posting a link to something having to do with the men and women who serve as police officers. And it’s almost always negative. Whenever I quickly peruse his/her posts the words police or cops are almost always in the text. And because I know it’s a “me against the world” bit - it’s just something to which I have no motivation to respond. I agree there are racist Americans who are police officers - but racists, bigots, etc. are in every walk of life. Most police officers do not harbor these extreme feelings.

I will add however that anyone who has a daily job that features the risk of violent death at the hands of another, and/or the responsibility of life or death decisions, or the sights of a lot of death - should be in regular psychological therapy. Paid for by the employer. Because that is trauma. And it WILL change a person in various harmful ways including clinical depression, PTSD, etc. When one is saturated with trauma and gets no healthy relief or guided “time outs” in which to process traumatic events one can become hardened, jaded, angry, suicidal, etc.

All emergency services members including doctors and nurses should be provided regular mandatory psychological therapy.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by screen glare » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:57 pm

So do the psychological evaluation pre employment - which I thought was always done. Then the regular mandatory therapy sessions once employed.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by Deleted User 12047 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:54 pm

Again, wow. I’m not sure who you are debating here, but I don’t see the correlation between my copied post and your house painter story “rebuttal”. To continue - please answer the following:

Does your freedom, as you see and define it, come with any responsibilities or consequences of your actions? Defend your answer.

Do you believe in the rule of law? Again defend your answer.

I’ll be happy to respond accordingly. If you would prefer to continue your current approach, I’ll probably pass. Thanks and have a great day.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by stopnswop2 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:18 pm

Sodomy was not illegal before 2003.
Learn the laws better.

The Supreme Court ruled in 2003 to override any anti-sodomy laws created by individual states.


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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by stopnswop2 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:49 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:17 pm
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:18 pm
Sodomy was not illegal before 2003.
Learn the laws better.

The Supreme Court ruled in 2003 to override any anti-sodomy laws created by individual states.
And just like that you contradicted yourself in two simple paragraphs.
I guess my post was too complex for you


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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by ZenithCKLW » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:33 pm

I understood what you meant stopnswop2. I didn't think it was too hard to understand.



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Re: SOME INTERESTING POINTS ABOUT FREEDOM AND THE RULE OF LAW

Post by stopnswop2 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:14 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:12 pm
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:49 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:17 pm
stopnswop2 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:18 pm
Sodomy was not illegal before 2003.
Learn the laws better.

The Supreme Court ruled in 2003 to override any anti-sodomy laws created by individual states.
And just like that you contradicted yourself in two simple paragraphs.
I guess my post was too complex for you
You’ve mistaken complexity for ignorance.

Facts:
1. There were anti-sodomy laws prior to 2003.
2. These laws made sodomy illegal.
3. The Supreme Court ruled in 2003 that anti-sodomy laws were unconstitutional.
4. This action made sodomy legal.

Your opinion:
“Derp, sodomy was not illegal before 2003.” Yes it was. Source: facts.

More facts:
5. Regardless of anti-sodomy laws, they’ve never stopped me!
You are still being an idiot.
Most states still have anti-sodomy laws btw.
You ate making irrelevant statements as usual

It was not illegal on a national level prior to 2003


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