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Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Discussion pertaining to Detroit, Ann Arbor, Port Huron, and SW Ontario
Deleted User 14935

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:07 pm

CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:08 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:02 pm
Detroit will keep losing its population status the next census is in 2020 that’s next year, Duggan is already campaigning to get the residents counted he was on 760 last week talking about it, Detroit currently has 700,000 residents, I bet when that census hits it will be 500,000 we will see.

500,000? Now that’s extreme! It was like 673,000 (estimate) in 2017.
Is 500,000 to extreme that’s just 173,000 away from your 2017 estimate. And what is your source.



Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:30 pm

double post
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Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:31 pm

Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:07 pm
CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:08 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:02 pm
Detroit will keep losing its population status the next census is in 2020 that’s next year, Duggan is already campaigning to get the residents counted he was on 760 last week talking about it, Detroit currently has 700,000 residents, I bet when that census hits it will be 500,000 we will see.

500,000? Now that’s extreme! It was like 673,000 (estimate) in 2017.
Is 500,000 to extreme that’s just 173,000 away from your 2017 estimate. And what is your source.
What is your source that it will be 500,000 next year?



Deleted User 14935

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:36 pm

CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:31 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:07 pm
CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:08 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:02 pm
Detroit will keep losing its population status the next census is in 2020 that’s next year, Duggan is already campaigning to get the residents counted he was on 760 last week talking about it, Detroit currently has 700,000 residents, I bet when that census hits it will be 500,000 we will see.

500,000? Now that’s extreme! It was like 673,000 (estimate) in 2017.
Is 500,000 to extreme that’s just 173,000 away from your 2017 estimate. And what is your source.
What is your source that it will be 500,000 next year?
I said I bet, Didn’t say it was an estimate it was clearly a guess read it again, You on the other hand are saying it’s an estimate, So where is your proof of your estimate.
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Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:38 pm

Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:36 pm
CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:31 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:07 pm
CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:08 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:02 pm
Detroit will keep losing its population status the next census is in 2020 that’s next year, Duggan is already campaigning to get the residents counted he was on 760 last week talking about it, Detroit currently has 700,000 residents, I bet when that census hits it will be 500,000 we will see.

500,000? Now that’s extreme! It was like 673,000 (estimate) in 2017.
Is 500,000 to extreme that’s just 173,000 away from your 2017 estimate. And what is your source.
What is your source that it will be 500,000 next year?
I said I bet didn’t say it was an estimate it was clearly a guess read it again, You on the other hand are saying it’s an estimate big difference.
If you say so.

To be exact, the 2017 population is 673,104

To be honest, it looks like millennials or the younger generation will be the ones to bring this city fully back. The ones moving back to the city proper seem to be young singles.

Too much baggage with the older generation, as they are the ones who had to watch the city decline.
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Deleted User 14935

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:39 pm

Based on what source?



Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:42 pm

Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:39 pm
Based on what source?

Look it up

Wikipedia gives all the information



Deleted User 14935

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 14935 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:47 pm

I not arguing I just need to know where the info is coming from Also The United States census bureau has those same numbers you stated and you’re correct, So I over estimated the population, I said 700,000. And the city’s decline is not a generational thing it’s all political BS all the crooked crap through the years and even today. So get off that generational trip your on.



Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:49 pm

Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:47 pm
I not arguing I just need to know where the info is coming from Also The United States census bureau has those same numbers you stated and you’re correct, So I over estimated the population, I said 700,000. And the city’s decline is not a generational thing it’s all political BS all the crooked crap through the years and even today. So get off that generational trip your on.
No need to get confrontational, my friend.

The city’s decline has everything to do with Detroit losing its tax base. That’s the issue. That’s why they are trying to clean up the schools and neighborhoods now.



Deleted User 8570

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:39 pm

CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:49 pm
Steve Korvette wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:47 pm
I not arguing I just need to know where the info is coming from Also The United States census bureau has those same numbers you stated and you’re correct, So I over estimated the population, I said 700,000. And the city’s decline is not a generational thing it’s all political BS all the crooked crap through the years and even today. So get off that generational trip your on.
No need to get confrontational, my friend.

The city’s decline has everything to do with Detroit losing its tax base. That’s the issue. That’s why they are trying to clean up the schools and neighborhoods now.
The tax base isn’t gonna come back to the point that the city has nearly 1.8 million residents. Nowhere near that would be possible these days... what’s to draw 1.3 million people to the city alone let alone the suburbs?



Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:53 pm

It’s unrealistic for it to be 1.8 million again. Maybe back to a million or close to it in about thirty years.



Deleted User 8570

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:03 am

CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:53 pm
It’s unrealistic for it to be 1.8 million again. Maybe back to a million or close to it in about thirty years.
But probably in the 20’s by then... that won’t get it done...



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Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by borderboy653659200 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:45 am

The "crooked crap" including Detroit's being run by the Mob and KKK in the 20's and 30's when my mother was growing up in the "D."



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Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by JackAttack FM » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:40 am

CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:00 am
JackAttack FM wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:08 am
I'm sorry your premice doesn't make sense.

Fox is shrinking its presense in Detroit. It sold Fox Sports Detroit to Disney who is in the process of divesting FSD and its sister RSNs
I don’t think Graham is doing well financially.
Where do you get this from??? Graham Holdings NYSE stock went way up since November, they increased their dividend and they trade over $650 a share. You can go into their operating ratios for youself. But, it doesn't seem like what you said is true.

Detroit as a city is not a lucrative market. Most of the city of Detroit makes less then $25,000 and population growth is stagnant.

And this TV market, as of January 2019 is ranked 14th. Get your DMA facts from Nielsen. The Detroit DMA is about 80,000 households behind the real number 13.

WDIV has been one of NBC's top performing affiliates. You can see it about doubles 2's and 7's news ratings. At some point WDIV was the highest rated NBC affiliate in the Eastern Time Zone. So, NBC and WDIV do very well by each other.

Its always possible NBC could buy any station or even pull what it did in Boston. But, that scenario is turning ito a failure.

I see where Comcast is expanding but, its mostly in internet platforms and sports. I would actually like to see them pick-up FSD but, theyre apparently not in the bidding.
So, how many stations has NBC bought lately to make this part of expansion plausible?

Detroit's population estimate is still going down.
2016 -  677,116.
2019 - 673,104. 

Opinion, not fact.

Population decline has not only drastically slowed down, many are expecting it to show a slight increase very soon. This comes from people who are truly in the know.

The old tired negative narrative will have to change soon. Soon, the Detroit comeback will not just be shown in downtown and midtown. It will reflect the neighborhoods, too. Already in the process.

As for Fox, them selling its RSNs have nothing to do with Detroit. It’s the Disney deal.

Fox hasn’t sold WJBK, because again, Detroit is an NFC market. This is why Fox bought KTVU, and why it’s after the Seattle affiliate.
None of that was opinion.

And get some updated info.
Three months ago Fox said they're not interested in Seattle but, would rather get better affiliation deals now.



Deleted User 7620

Re: Comcast and NBC in Detroit

Post by Deleted User 7620 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:45 pm

JackAttack FM wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:40 am
CircleWXYZ wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:00 am
JackAttack FM wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:08 am
I'm sorry your premice doesn't make sense.

Fox is shrinking its presense in Detroit. It sold Fox Sports Detroit to Disney who is in the process of divesting FSD and its sister RSNs
I don’t think Graham is doing well financially.
Where do you get this from??? Graham Holdings NYSE stock went way up since November, they increased their dividend and they trade over $650 a share. You can go into their operating ratios for youself. But, it doesn't seem like what you said is true.

Detroit as a city is not a lucrative market. Most of the city of Detroit makes less then $25,000 and population growth is stagnant.

And this TV market, as of January 2019 is ranked 14th. Get your DMA facts from Nielsen. The Detroit DMA is about 80,000 households behind the real number 13.

WDIV has been one of NBC's top performing affiliates. You can see it about doubles 2's and 7's news ratings. At some point WDIV was the highest rated NBC affiliate in the Eastern Time Zone. So, NBC and WDIV do very well by each other.

Its always possible NBC could buy any station or even pull what it did in Boston. But, that scenario is turning ito a failure.

I see where Comcast is expanding but, its mostly in internet platforms and sports. I would actually like to see them pick-up FSD but, theyre apparently not in the bidding.
So, how many stations has NBC bought lately to make this part of expansion plausible?

Detroit's population estimate is still going down.
2016 -  677,116.
2019 - 673,104. 

Opinion, not fact.

Population decline has not only drastically slowed down, many are expecting it to show a slight increase very soon. This comes from people who are truly in the know.

The old tired negative narrative will have to change soon. Soon, the Detroit comeback will not just be shown in downtown and midtown. It will reflect the neighborhoods, too. Already in the process.

As for Fox, them selling its RSNs have nothing to do with Detroit. It’s the Disney deal.

Fox hasn’t sold WJBK, because again, Detroit is an NFC market. This is why Fox bought KTVU, and why it’s after the Seattle affiliate.
None of that was opinion.

And get some updated info.
Three months ago Fox said they're not interested in Seattle but, would rather get better affiliation deals now.

Proved my point! :)



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