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Kyle Underwhelm

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Kyle Underwhelm

Post by RadioPhobia » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:45 pm

OMG it's SO painful!
I work from home and sit at a workstation for many hours a day with the TV on for background noise. This week with Bill Steffen on vacation I've had to SUFFER through Kyle Underwood and his ridiculous TV presence all week - sometimes having to sit through it 3-4 times in one day/night.

I'm baffled that management doesn't sit down with him and tell him to TONE DOWN the 'casual' 'full of hot air' delivery and just give us the fukking forecast. If I could count the number of times he's thrown out ARCTIC BLAST this week, and get a dollar for each one, I could retire. It's going to be 28-30 degrees for like 7 days and that is NOT an 'Arctic BLAST' - for cryin' out loud it's December!
He's clogging up Facebook too with 'live' yak-yak-yak ARCTIC BLAST' break-ins about 3 times a day. GIVE IT A REST. or better yet GIVE YOURSELF A REST.

Oh and he uses the word 'precip' for rain. Give me a break. That might work in the break room with other weather guys, but the public doesn't get it. He just loves to hear himself talk and act cute while I struggle not to pull a shoe off and toss it at my TV.

And as for Steffen, nice guy, but it's time for him to stay home and hang with his family. He's had a good run. But his blatant denial of climate change tarnishes his forecasts. He will NEVER talk about any 'above average' temps - even when the NWS is blaring about it, but will ALWAYS talk 'cooler than average' over and over and over. (His blog suffers from that too - at least when there were comments, people could challenge him over it, but now that comments are gone, he's free to spread his BS. I want THE weather forecast, not YOUR weather forecast).

Matt Kirkwood is next in line for Bill's job. It's time to give it to him. I recall how 'green' Matt was in his first few months, but boy, he's really great now. I see him during the morning forecast, and he's funny, precise, great smooth delivery and even though I'm told he doesn't believe in climate change either, he NEVER lets that taint his forecast. If the 6-10 day weather map says 'much above average temps' he will SHOW it on the air. And just for the record, Ellen Bacca was also great hire. She's sweet and VERY good for just starting out and can only get even better.

But the rest of them? Hooey. Hey WOOD: Do some serious thinking. It's time to upgrade and make some overdue changes.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Bull Shannon » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:15 am

My personal prediction is that, unless he decides to retire sooner, Bill will probably retire by 2021 as that'll mark 20 years at WOOD after he left WZZM.

Kirkwood would definitely be solid in the Chief's chair after Bill retires.

Underwood's enthusiasm is definitely a bit over the top sometimes.

They also clearly need to hire another meteorologist with 'WOOD' in their last name.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Biff » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:25 pm

RadioPhobia wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:45 pm
OMG it's SO painful!
I work from home and sit at a workstation for many hours a day with the TV on for background noise. This week with Bill Steffen on vacation I've had to SUFFER through Kyle Underwood and his ridiculous TV presence all week - sometimes having to sit through it 3-4 times in one day/night.

It's too bad there isn't more than one channel choice around here.


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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by MWmetalhead » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:49 pm

I have to strongly disagree with the original post.

Bill's long-range forecasting ability is very good, probably better than anyone else in the market. His knowledge of historical facts (especially in relation to local weather) is impressive, too. I hope he sticks around.

I've always liked Kyle Underwood's on-air manner.

Matt & Ellen are good. For being bottom man (or in this case, woman) on the totem pole, Ms. Bacca does a terrific job. Would not surprise me if she follows in the footsteps of her two predecessors - i.e. bigger job in a larger market.

Top to bottom - channel 8 by far has the best weather team in the market.

BTW, Bill's blog post regarding his encounter with a pelican in Florida is some funny shit. I encourage everyone to check it out; you'll soon learn why I used the "funny shit" reference. :)


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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by MasterB » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:27 pm

Wood TV does a pretty good job when it comes to weather like most everyone on weather. You don't hear about climate change on local TV stations they just give you the weather forecast let Weather Channel talk about Climate Change which they are 90% wrong on it and have a bias on that.
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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Jason Kragt » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:55 am

I have to disagree on both counts about Matt Kirkwood.

I don't think the line of succession is that clear. Matt is in no way a shoe in for the Chief Meteorologist job. Given the recent substitution assignments, I would say Matt's chances are well below 50/50.

As to the comment about how "green" he was, you are being waaaaayyyy too generous. I still remember a 7:25 am weather break when he was waxing poetic at such length over the beautiful background scene that he forgot to get to the forecast. Pretty basic stuff.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Jason Kragt » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:05 am

MasterB wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:27 pm
Wood TV does a pretty good job when it comes to weather like most everyone on weather. You don't hear about climate change on local TV stations they just give you the weather forecast let Weather Channel talk about Climate Change which they are 90% wrong on and have a bias on that.
I agree. The Weather Channel is biased about Climate Change. They have chosen to accept the conclusions of accomplished climate scientists over those of opportunistic hack politicians. I'll take that bias any day!



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by jm » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:26 pm

Jason, then why did the founder of the Weather Channel come out with a piece about the flawed science being used to promote climate change?



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by inmyopinion » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:08 am

jm wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:26 pm
Jason, then why did the founder of the Weather Channel come out with a piece about the flawed science being used to promote climate change?
So you choose to use the "ONE" person who said the science was flawed to base your argument? Gotcha.

As for the successor to Bill, I choose to put my opinions of talent aside and let management's actions speak for themselves. In this instance, If Bill is off, who does his shift? Seems to me Kyle, enough said.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Trophyhead » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:35 am

He is easily among the most self-assured of their meteorologists, with Terri DeBoer giving him a run at the top as self-absorbed.

Kyle did a piece on Facebook yesterday, a "quick update" about the snow starting up, which went four minutes.

Quick is open to debate, I guess.

I find myself turning to 17 first for News these days, then 13 or 3, then 8, with no good reason for this selection pattern.

Maybe when the weather's REALLY bad, the rotation will change.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by trevorlinck » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:47 pm

Trophyhead wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:35 am
He is easily among the most self-assured of their meteorologists, with Terri DeBoer giving him a run at the top as self-absorbed.
good thing tracy hinson is gone; she was 100x more self-absorbed than all of the others combined.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:04 am

What is the deal with Candace's voice over at 17? I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard. She needs some serious, serious coaching.


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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Localnewsisdead » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:04 pm

Rumors (and Rumors are what they are) out of College Avenue have Bill retiring in 2018 or 2019 with Kyle taking over as Chief Meteorologist. So like it or not...looks like Underwood is here to stay.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by quacky » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:17 pm

[quote=Localnewsisdead post_id=566226 time=1513206265 user_id=3424]
Rumors (and Rumors are what they are) out of College Avenue have Bill retiring in 2018 or 2019 with Kyle taking over as Chief Meteorologist. So like it or not...looks like Underwood is here to stay.
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Thats a shame if Underwood gets the Chief job. Can't stand this guy and his personality. Candace over at Fox 17 has some voice issues i agree. Not so sure coaching will help a person with hoarse issues as what it sounds to me. Again i think she is pretty darn good compared to that Garry Frank joker who doesn't make any sense what he says half the time and repeats himself constantly. Talk about a guy who is hard to listen too.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by inmyopinion » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:24 pm

Localnewsisdead wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:04 pm
Rumors (and Rumors are what they are) out of College Avenue have Bill retiring in 2018 or 2019 with Kyle taking over as Chief Meteorologist. So like it or not...looks like Underwood is here to stay.
As I said a couple threads above, if you watch multiple newscasts and you see the role management puts each person in..eg: Kyle almost always fills in for Bill, Matt does not....this will tell you all you need to know. I thought Kyle taking over was pretty common knowledge by now, perhaps I assumed and in this instance my assumption was correct.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by WMnewslover » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:36 am

quacky wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:17 pm
Localnewsisdead wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:04 pm
Rumors (and Rumors are what they are) out of College Avenue have Bill retiring in 2018 or 2019 with Kyle taking over as Chief Meteorologist. So like it or not...looks like Underwood is here to stay.
Thats a shame if Underwood gets the Chief job. Can't stand this guy and his personality. Candace over at Fox 17 has some voice issues i agree. Not so sure coaching will help a person with hoarse issues as what it sounds to me. Again i think she is pretty darn good compared to that Garry Frank joker who doesn't make any sense what he says half the time and repeats himself constantly. Talk about a guy who is hard to listen too.
Very disappointed if Kyle gets chief. I think Matt would be a natural, and better fit. Garry Frank is absolutely horrible. Totally agree, I would rather listen to man voice Candace any day over Garry. At least she seems to have a grasp on what she is talking about. Frank is the sorriest excuse of a meteorologist I have ever seen.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Honolulublue4life » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:04 pm

Will be a sad day when Bill retires. Also if you notice on WZZM, Alana almost always fills in for George. George is getting up there as well.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Trophyhead » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:07 am

With regard to Frank, it's quite a snarling existence on-air, between himself and Erica Francis.

All visual indications are that neither thinks too much of the abilities or presence of the other. This morning, Erica worked in a line from the Shakespeare play "Cymbeline," "Fear no more of the heat of the sun," and Garry held his tongue a moment before dismissing our current warmth as "heat." She ended the exchange with "OK, Garry." The way the news promos are composed at 17, with Francis featured in them, he may do well to forget his feelings and protect his status as the 4 1/2 hr. weatherman on the Fox Morning News.



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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by Biff » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:30 am

Trophyhead wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:07 am
With regard to Frank, it's quite a snarling existence on-air, between himself and Erica Francis.

All visual indications are that neither thinks too much of the abilities or presence of the other. This morning, Erica worked in a line from the Shakespeare play "Cymbeline," "Fear no more of the heat of the sun," and Garry held his tongue a moment before dismissing our current warmth as "heat." She ended the exchange with "OK, Garry." The way the news promos are composed at 17, with Francis featured in them, he may do well to forget his feelings and protect his status as the 4 1/2 hr. weatherman on the Fox Morning News.

I have noticed that there are times when Erica is very clearly annoyed by him but maintains a professional dialogue.


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Re: Kyle Underwhelm

Post by quacky » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:53 am

[quote=Biff post_id=566507 time=1513701007 user_id=532]
[quote=Trophyhead post_id=566506 time=1513699646 user_id=232]
With regard to Frank, it's quite a snarling existence on-air, between himself and Erica Francis.

All visual indications are that neither thinks too much of the abilities or presence of the other. This morning, Erica worked in a line from the Shakespeare play "Cymbeline," "Fear no more of the heat of the sun," and Garry held his tongue a moment before dismissing our current warmth as "heat." She ended the exchange with "OK, Garry." The way the news promos are composed at 17, with Francis featured in them, he may do well to forget his feelings and protect his status as the 4 1/2 hr. weatherman on the Fox Morning News.
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I have noticed that there are times when Erica is very clearly annoyed by him but maintains a professional dialogue.
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Agree. Frank is the worst weatherman i have ever seen. Also Frank i believe rubs Deanna the wrong way too. I never understand how this guy ever got hired at Fox 17. Constantly rubbing his hands before a forecast, so annoying, repeats words, talks in circles. Him explaining the weather leaves you so confused as to say, i didn't understand a thing he just said.



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