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Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

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Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by craig11152 » Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:22 am

Starting Tuesday in Michigan if you work under a CBA and are not currently in the union that ends Tuesday.
Sign up or find a new job that isn't unionized.
The texts and other notices where I work (Ann Arbor Public Schools bus driver, working under Durham Transportation) make it sound like come Tuesday if you aren't in the union you are out of a job till you sign up.


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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by radiofann » Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:51 am

My understanding is that it does not apply to public govt employee unions, like teachers unions.

Privatized bus companies might be a different matter.

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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:10 pm

craig11152 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:22 am
Starting Tuesday in Michigan if you work under a CBA and are not currently in the union that ends Tuesday.
Sign up or find a new job that isn't unionized.
The texts and other notices where I work (Ann Arbor Public Schools bus driver, working under Durham Transportation) make it sound like come Tuesday if you aren't in the union you are out of a job till you sign up.
That is bullshit.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by craig11152 » Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:11 pm

radiofann wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:51 am
My understanding is that it does not apply to public govt employee unions, like teachers unions.
This is true. But Michigan is low on the Government employee per capita list. So it does potentially apply to a lot folks.
Certainly where I work because we are private sector.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by craig11152 » Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:12 pm

Matt wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:10 pm
craig11152 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:22 am
Starting Tuesday in Michigan if you work under a CBA and are not currently in the union that ends Tuesday.
Sign up or find a new job that isn't unionized.
The texts and other notices where I work (Ann Arbor Public Schools bus driver, working under Durham Transportation) make it sound like come Tuesday if you aren't in the union you are out of a job till you sign up.
That is bullshit.
Are you referencing the law or my post?
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:33 pm

craig11152 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:12 pm
Matt wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:10 pm
craig11152 wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:22 am
Starting Tuesday in Michigan if you work under a CBA and are not currently in the union that ends Tuesday.
Sign up or find a new job that isn't unionized.
The texts and other notices where I work (Ann Arbor Public Schools bus driver, working under Durham Transportation) make it sound like come Tuesday if you aren't in the union you are out of a job till you sign up.
That is bullshit.
Are you referencing the law or my post?
The law.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by radiofann » Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:38 pm

Is any portion of Ann Arbor bus drivers in a union? School districts might outsource an entire function (like cafeteria services) as a cost save.

If there is no union for you to join, not sure if the new law has to force you to join a union.

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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:42 pm

radiofann wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:38 pm
Is any portion of Ann Arbor bus drivers in a union? School districts might outsource an entire function (like cafeteria services) as a cost save.

If there is no union for you to join, not sure if the new law has to force you to join a union.
Forced union membership is only a thing if there is an existing union. It is legalized theft.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by craig11152 » Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:59 pm

radiofann wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:38 pm
Is any portion of Ann Arbor bus drivers in a union? School districts might outsource an entire function (like cafeteria services) as a cost save.

If there is no union for you to join, not sure if the new law has to force you to join a union.
We work for Durham Transportation. Teamsters local 243 is our union.
Yes clearly the law applies to existing unions.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Matt » Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:02 pm

People who don't want wages stolen have lost with this union handout.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by MWmetalhead » Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:00 pm

I was unaware that RTW had an automatic sunset date.

I agree that it's dumb that the law was structured in such a fashion.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Mike » Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:27 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:00 pm
I was unaware that RTW had an automatic sunset date.

I agree that it's dumb that the law was structured in such a fashion.
It didn't. Repeal is among the pile of laws that take effect 90 days after 2023 sine die - which is the 13th.

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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Realist » Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:34 pm

radiofann wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:51 am
My understanding is that it does not apply to public govt employee unions, like teachers unions.

Privatized bus companies might be a different matter.
Correct but incorrect. Teachers are not considered a public government employees.

Federal, State, County and City employees, per the Janus vs. AFSCME decision, cannot be forced to join a Union. Supreme Court bought the BS argument that it’s “free speech”. Horse 💩. If you don’t want to pay Union dues to get higher Union wages, don’t apply there
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by MWmetalhead » Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:40 pm

Mike wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:27 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:00 pm
I was unaware that RTW had an automatic sunset date.

I agree that it's dumb that the law was structured in such a fashion.
It didn't. Repeal is among the pile of laws that take effect 90 days after 2023 sine die - which is the 13th.
Ah, that makes more sense now. Thanks for the info.

The MSM don't devote enough attention to the goings-on in Lansing. This one slipped under the radar on me.
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Re: Right to work ends Tuesday (13th)

Post by Rate This » Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:33 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:40 pm
Mike wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:27 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:00 pm
I was unaware that RTW had an automatic sunset date.

I agree that it's dumb that the law was structured in such a fashion.
It didn't. Repeal is among the pile of laws that take effect 90 days after 2023 sine die - which is the 13th.
Ah, that makes more sense now. Thanks for the info.

The MSM don't devote enough attention to the goings-on in Lansing. This one slipped under the radar on me.
Right to work being repealed was a rather big deal when it happened… maybe they should have devoted more time to the repeal date though.. but it’s just back to the way it was before 2012. The way the right to work law was structured was intentionally unfair to unions.

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