Guaranteed Income Starts in Flint

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Yes, government handouts of $7500, most of which will end up being used to buy new TVs and cell phones, will really help eliminate poverty....

And more than likely a few quick trips to the local casinos...

Really? The money isn't going to old white guys.

You're right "TC"...I never see Old Black Men at MGM or Motor City casinos...

So you are suggesting that pregnant and mothers of newborns are going to leave their children, get in a car and to the Motor City Casino?

Sounds like you got some quality meth this week.

You actually believe that scenario doesn't happen?

[TC Talks]

Yes, government handouts of $7500, most of which will end up being used to buy new TVs and cell phones, will really help eliminate poverty....

And more than likely a few quick trips to the local casinos...

Really? The money isn't going to old white guys.

You're right "TC"...I never see Old Black Men at MGM or Motor City casinos...

So you are suggesting that pregnant and mothers of newborns are going to leave their children, get in a car and to the Motor City Casino?

Sounds like you got some quality meth this week.

You actually believe that scenario doesn't happen?

From Flint? 1 on 100,000. But why not find the most absurd abuse example and try to present it as what will happen for everyone. It's the idiots guide to responding to poverty.

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Yes, government handouts of $7500, most of which will end up being used to buy new TVs and cell phones, will really help eliminate poverty....

And more than likely a few quick trips to the local casinos...

Really? The money isn't going to old white guys.

You're right "TC"...I never see Old Black Men at MGM or Motor City casinos...

So you are suggesting that pregnant and mothers of newborns are going to leave their children, get in a car and to the Motor City Casino?

Sounds like you got some quality meth this week.

You actually believe that scenario doesn't happen?

They’ll drop the kid off somewhere and go down there… what are they gonna do get there and leave the kid in the car? They aren’t walking in with it.

[bmw]

...1 on 100,000. But why not find the most absurd abuse example and try to present it as what will happen for everyone...

You mean like your suggestion that freezing to death - something that statistically happens less often than being killed by a lightning strike - is somehow a significant problem that affects the homeless?

[bmw]

Ok, what's your plan to end poverty? Cause the fight is worth having.

You think poverty can be ended? The Bible suggests otherwise.

Deuteronomy 15:11
"For there will never cease to be poor in the land..."

Mark 14:7
"The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them whenever you want..."

So can we help the poor? Yes. Should we help the poor yes? But let's not pretend that we can put an end to it.

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Ok, what's your plan to end poverty? Cause the fight is worth having.

You think poverty can be ended? The Bible suggests otherwise.

Deuteronomy 15:11
"For there will never cease to be poor in the land..."

Mark 14:7
"The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them whenever you want..."

So can we help the poor? Yes. Should we help the poor yes? But let's not pretend that we can put an end to it.

We certainly have the means with which to try. Thank god you’re an optimist…

[bmw]

I'm just stating the reality that you will never ever end poverty. There are a certain percentage of people who are pre-disposed and destined to live that way, and there's literally nothing that can be done about it. Giving them cash is a temporary band-aid. That cash doesn't fix the broken families or broken educational system.

Look at how many people who were once filthy rich and famous end up later in life bankrupt. Obviously having hoards of cash wasn't the answer to their problem.

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I'm just stating the reality that you will never ever end poverty. There are a certain percentage of people who are pre-disposed and destined to live that way, and there's literally nothing that can be done about it. Giving them cash is a temporary band-aid. That cash doesn't fix the broken families or broken educational system.

Look at how many people who were once filthy rich and famous end up later in life bankrupt. Obviously having hoards of cash wasn't the answer to their problem.

There is much work to do… probably never fix broken families or a broken education system either. Those have always been problems. Having 2 parents doesn’t mean a hill of beans if they both fight constantly and they hate each other. That’s always been a problem. When divorce was illegal it simply forced all those people to remain stuck together which was a bad answer too.

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...1 on 100,000. But why not find the most absurd abuse example and try to present it as what will happen for everyone...

You mean like your suggestion that freezing to death - something that statistically happens less often than being killed by a lightning strike - is somehow a significant problem that affects the homeless?

It happened twice in my county last year. 10 in the last decade. No one person has been struck by lightning.

You obviously didn't look very hard. I found 7 stories of people just in Michigan who froze in 2023. You aren't that dense, I believe that you just don't care very much about people. Try getting faith.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/18/us/m ... ezing.html

[TC Talks]

Ok, what's your plan to end poverty? Cause the fight is worth having.

You think poverty can be ended? The Bible suggests otherwise.

Deuteronomy 15:11
"For there will never cease to be poor in the land..."

Mark 14:7
"The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them whenever you want..."

So can we help the poor? Yes. Should we help the poor yes? But let's not pretend that we can put an end to it.

In my opinion, you need to spend time reading the entire Bible, cause you most certainly have missed half the teachings of Christ. Have you embraced same sex partnerships yet as The Pope has commanded?

As far as ending Poverty, you clearly haven't found faith yet.

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Ok, what's your plan to end poverty? Cause the fight is worth having.

You think poverty can be ended? The Bible suggests otherwise.

Deuteronomy 15:11
"For there will never cease to be poor in the land..."

Mark 14:7
"The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them whenever you want..."

So can we help the poor? Yes. Should we help the poor yes? But let's not pretend that we can put an end to it.

In my opinion, you need to spend time reading the entire Bible, cause you most certainly have missed half the teachings of Christ. Have you embraced same sex partnerships yet as The Pope has commanded?

As far as ending Poverty, you clearly haven't found faith yet.

Is bmw even Catholic? Outside of the Catholic church very few Christians care what the pope says.

[Motown322]

It's Cafeteria Catholicism... take a big heaping helping of what I like and avoid the rest. It's the single biggest issue I have with the Church (and other denominations are not exempt from this line of thinking). I just couldn't square myself away with the blatant hypocrisy coming out of it. And before anyone asks, I'm a confirmed Catholic so I have the right to complain.

[bmw]

Is bmw even Catholic? Outside of the Catholic church very few Christians care what the pope says.

I was raised Catholic, but today I consider myself a non-denominational Christian. Organized religion, generally speaking, is far too ritualistic for me.

[bmw]

As far as ending Poverty, you clearly haven't found faith yet.

I'm not suggesting that helping those in need is not a worthy goal. What I'm saying is that "ending" poverty is an unrealistic one.

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As far as ending Poverty, you clearly haven't found faith yet.

I'm not suggesting that helping those in need is not a worthy goal. What I'm saying is that "ending" poverty is an unrealistic one.

Goals aren't achieved when you don't target the ultimate finish line. There are several countries that have ended poverty. They did it by making it a priority and they didn't quit until the goal was met. Anything else is marginal. Are you marginal?

For most, it was an economic strategy. Do you know what the cost of poverty is for a society?