This is why violent crime is a major issue...

[MWmetalhead]

The fact these two men were allowed to plea bargain down to absurdly light sentences for the crime of murder is a complete outrage.

Kim Worthy's office is a disgrace.

These THUGS will probably be back in society in 15 years or less via parole.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 993271007/

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We don't have the funds to house every criminal for life. Why would she plead otherwise? It probably allowed her prosecutor to pursue another case sooner.

Life sentence vs 55 years... What is the practical difference?

And explain how this leads to more violent crime? Do you think others see a 55 year sentence and think " I should kill someone"?

Connect the dots for me.

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We don't have the funds to house every criminal for life. Why would she plead otherwise? It probably allowed her prosecutor to pursue another case sooner.

Life sentence vs 55 years... What is the practical difference?

And explain how this leads to more violent crime? Do you think others see a 55 year sentence and think " I should kill someone"?

Connect the dots for me.

These guys get out and they will likely do it again. That’s how it leads to violent crime. Also that’s 20-55 years for ONE of the three while the others got 15-25… these guys can all be out before the age of 50 for killing someone by shooting them in the back of the head after tying them up with Christmas lights and muffling the act with a pillow. There are some crimes for which your involvement needs to not come with a possibility of being free again. I would gladly trade non-violent drug offenders for space to permanently house people like this.

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We don't have the funds to house every criminal for life. Why would she plead otherwise? It probably allowed her prosecutor to pursue another case sooner.

Life sentence vs 55 years... What is the practical difference?

And explain how this leads to more violent crime? Do you think others see a 55 year sentence and think " I should kill someone"?

Connect the dots for me.

These guys get out and they will likely do it again. That’s how it leads to violent crime. Also that’s 20-55 years for ONE of the three while the others got 15-25… these guys can all be out before the age of 50 for killing someone by shooting them in the back of the head after tying them up with Christmas lights and muffling the act with a pillow. There are some crimes for which your involvement needs to not come with a possibility of being free again. I would gladly trade non-violent drug offenders for space to permanently house people like this.

Thats up to lawmakers with mandatory sentencing for non-violent crime. Again, Worthy is managing a difficult situation. Too bad we don't have a correction system that helps not hardens people incarcerated.

[MasterB]

Lock them up for life Kim Worthy needs to go she doesn't do her job she is soft on crime. If Kim ever runs statewide I'll never vote for her.

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Lock them up for life Kim Worthy needs to go she doesn't do her job she is soft on crime. If Kim ever runs statewide I'll never vote for her.

Then the case would go to trial. This means 100's of hours of prosecutor time. That means the prosecutor's office will not pursue other cases because they have a budget to work within.

Wayne County has the most crime in the state, and the crime surpasses the resources available to see everyone is brought to justice perfectly. Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs (Oakland county has the most resources to pursue criminals) don't change the realities of a poor and dangerous city. There were 14,500 violent crimes in Detroit alone last year. 303 murders.
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... eveal.html

The more you learn about how the justice system works, the more you will realize that Worthy is pretty competent and doing the best with the resources she has.

[craig11152]

Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

[Bobbert]

The fact these two men were allowed to plea bargain down to absurdly light sentences for the crime of murder is a complete outrage.

Kim Worthy's office is a disgrace.

These THUGS will probably be back in society in 15 years or less via parole.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 993271007/

Wanda Evans also needs some sensitivity training. She really didn't need to say any of this.

Wayne Circuit Court Judge Wanda Evans encouraged Covington's family members to remember the “lessons” she taught them. Evan said those lessons “can be carried on by you all, to all that you encounter, to all family members, in spite of this horrible, horrific, tragic situation.”

“That’s all I can say,” she said. “I can give you a long speech, but from the bottom of my heart, I wish you peace.”

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Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

Yep. I have a friend who works in the Wayne County prosecutors office. We've discussed this topic many times. You are probably welcome to drive your bus downtown and show them how to handle 14,500 violent cases and 303 murders with only 180 attorneys.

https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/pro ... /home.aspx

The Wayne County Prosecutor's Office prosecutes felony cases throughout Wayne County. My staff of over 180 assistant prosecuting attorneys, 24 investigators and 70 clerical and non lawyers support staff prosecute over 52% of all felony cases in Michigan. Forbes Magazine recently named Detroit as the most violent city in America. Our office is one of the 10th largest by case load in America and yet our staff is miniscule compared to offices like Los Angeles who enjoy a staff of over 2,200 or even Philadelphia who employ over 600 people. I am proud of our record and the miracles that we accomplish everyday.

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Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

Yep. I have a friend who works in the Wayne County prosecutors office. We've discussed this topic many times. You are probably welcome to drive your bus downtown and show them how to handle 14,500 violent cases and 303 murders with only 180 attorneys.

https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/pro ... /home.aspx

The Wayne County Prosecutor's Office prosecutes felony cases throughout Wayne County. My staff of over 180 assistant prosecuting attorneys, 24 investigators and 70 clerical and non lawyers support staff prosecute over 52% of all felony cases in Michigan. Forbes Magazine recently named Detroit as the most violent city in America. Our office is one of the 10th largest by case load in America and yet our staff is miniscule compared to offices like Los Angeles who enjoy a staff of over 2,200 or even Philadelphia who employ over 600 people. I am proud of our record and the miracles that we accomplish everyday.

Sounds like it’s time to increase the staff there bigly…

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Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

Yep. I have a friend who works in the Wayne County prosecutors office. We've discussed this topic many times. You are probably welcome to drive your bus downtown and show them how to handle 14,500 violent cases and 303 murders with only 180 attorneys.

https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/pro ... /home.aspx

The Wayne County Prosecutor's Office prosecutes felony cases throughout Wayne County. My staff of over 180 assistant prosecuting attorneys, 24 investigators and 70 clerical and non lawyers support staff prosecute over 52% of all felony cases in Michigan. Forbes Magazine recently named Detroit as the most violent city in America. Our office is one of the 10th largest by case load in America and yet our staff is miniscule compared to offices like Los Angeles who enjoy a staff of over 2,200 or even Philadelphia who employ over 600 people. I am proud of our record and the miracles that we accomplish everyday.

Sounds like it’s time to increase the staff there bigly…

If Wayne Country had 500 attorneys then I would join the complaining about plea bargains. But then we'd need more prisons.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to invest in Childhood development and parenting support to end this cycle? It's proven itself in other places.

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Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

Yep. I have a friend who works in the Wayne County prosecutors office. We've discussed this topic many times. You are probably welcome to drive your bus downtown and show them how to handle 14,500 violent cases and 303 murders with only 180 attorneys.

https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/pro ... /home.aspx

The Wayne County Prosecutor's Office prosecutes felony cases throughout Wayne County. My staff of over 180 assistant prosecuting attorneys, 24 investigators and 70 clerical and non lawyers support staff prosecute over 52% of all felony cases in Michigan. Forbes Magazine recently named Detroit as the most violent city in America. Our office is one of the 10th largest by case load in America and yet our staff is miniscule compared to offices like Los Angeles who enjoy a staff of over 2,200 or even Philadelphia who employ over 600 people. I am proud of our record and the miracles that we accomplish everyday.

Sounds like it’s time to increase the staff there bigly…

If Wayne Country had 500 attorneys then I would join the complaining about plea bargains. But then we'd need more prisons.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to invest in Childhood development and parenting support to end this cycle? It's proven itself in other places.

Sure but we would need to do both until the situation improves in a generation or so.

[kager]

Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

Unless you have met in person, how do you know if white and/or guy?

[TC Talks]

Off the cuff comments by white guys in the suburbs......

As opposed to off the cuff comments by a white guy up North?

Unless you have met in person, how do you know if white and/or guy?

I might identify as an Android

[paul8539]

Just give them the firing squad. If they think it is unconstitutional, let them complain after they are executed.