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Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:27 pm

I agree; that legislation should've been defeated.

That said, the salon owner in Traverse City sounds like a real piece of work. I liked the "hey you!" line but the rest of her diatribe was crass.


Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by bmw » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:44 pm

FakeAndyStuart wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:12 am
House Bill 4474 seeks to expand what constitutes as a hate crime in Michigan as it relates to real or perceived identifying characteristics including race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, and more. The bill also outlines the punishments for such crimes.
Nowhere in the bill does it explicitly criminalize the use of incorrect pronouns.
I credit Channel 4 in Detroit for the astute analysis above. Your desire to make something real does not actually make it real.
"real or perceived identifying characteristics including...gender identity or expression"
"incorrect pronoun usage."

Can anyone explain to me how these two phrases differ from each other?

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by TC Talks » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:55 pm

Traverse City has had a non-discrimination ordinance in place since 2010. The city attorney was asked to see if the cunt (to use Matt's phrasing) violated the law. I doubt anything will come from that.

I have heard that she will be losing her position with the county Republican party. They don't want a circus here.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Rate This » Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:16 am

bmw wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:44 pm
FakeAndyStuart wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:12 am
House Bill 4474 seeks to expand what constitutes as a hate crime in Michigan as it relates to real or perceived identifying characteristics including race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, and more. The bill also outlines the punishments for such crimes.
Nowhere in the bill does it explicitly criminalize the use of incorrect pronouns.
I credit Channel 4 in Detroit for the astute analysis above. Your desire to make something real does not actually make it real.
"real or perceived identifying characteristics including...gender identity or expression"
"incorrect pronoun usage."

Can anyone explain to me how these two phrases differ from each other?
If it doesn't seem reasonable to the people that SUPPORT the bill then it's a DOA concept. Sitting there misidentifying someones pronouns doesn't really rise to the level of being hateful ma'am.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by kager » Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am

The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by TC Talks » Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am

kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Rate This » Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
But did anybody lift a finger to try to correct or help the woman first? My guess is you folks hit the “socially punish” booth just like all the reporters in Airplane running into the phone booth at once to report the plane story and then the damn thing falls over.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Matt » Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:46 am

Rate This wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
But did anybody lift a finger to try to correct or help the woman first? My guess is you folks hit the “socially punish” booth just like all the reporters in Airplane running into the phone booth at once to report the plane story and then the damn thing falls over.
What she said was pretty heinous.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by TC Talks » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:00 am

Rate This wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
But did anybody lift a finger to try to correct or help the woman first? My guess is you folks hit the “socially punish” booth just like all the reporters in Airplane running into the phone booth at once to report the plane story and then the damn thing falls over.
Have you ever had a conversation with someone who speaks like this? I have when I worked in shelters.

A) She is a Republican delegate, and look at what is happening to the state party.

B) She sees what her "leader" says, and Marjorie Green remains in office.

C) She feels empowered with the recent Supreme Court ruling from Colorado.

She doesn't seek anyone's help, I am willing to bet. Sometimes there needs to be an example.

For the record, I only spectate situations like this. I know there is mental illness here, so I don't care to contribute directly.
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by Rate This » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:54 am

Matt wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:46 am
Rate This wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:34 am
kager wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:31 am
The attack surface for anything posted publicly on SocMed is so vague, large and stupid, I'm surprised anybody posts anything that could be considered negative or controversial on it. Gets really rough when the poster is an 'uninformed individual or company' and doesn't consider the unwritten PC rules that SocMed may foist upon you, depending on the direction the wind is blowing at the time.

Yeah, you've got the right to free speech - as long as you keep it to yourself. Or post it on PolPot :blink
Free speech has always come with consequences. She has the right to be socially punished like she has.
But did anybody lift a finger to try to correct or help the woman first? My guess is you folks hit the “socially punish” booth just like all the reporters in Airplane running into the phone booth at once to report the plane story and then the damn thing falls over.
What she said was pretty heinous.
Sure but permanently ostracizing someone is a nuclear option to be handled with care. We tend to shoot first and ask questions later.

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Post by audiophile » Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:37 pm

+1
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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by bmw » Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:42 pm

Don't people have better things to do with their time?
Gathered at the city's civic center and outside Studio 8 Hair Lab, demonstrators —joined by Traverse City Mayor Pro-Tem Amy Shamroe— protested Geiger's stance Wednesday, marching, chanting and carrying pro LGBTQ+ signs that said, "Love is love," and "Hate has no home here!"
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 413146007/

TC talks about mental illness being a factor. I would suggest that if the publicly posted opinions of an individual local business owner get your panties in so much of a wad that you feel the need to organize a street protest in front of said business owner's place of work, then you are the one with a mental illness. Don't like what she has to say? Don't go there. It's the same solution as saying "change the dial" when you don't like what someone on TV or radio has to say. People for whom that isn't enough - whom feel the need to organize an angry mob and set out to destroy a person - have a couple of screws loose.

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Re: Traverse City Hair Salon Rejects "Woke" Pronouns and Shit

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:35 pm

I'm a bit surprised one (obscure) person's foolish comments have attracted so much attention from the mainstream media.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.

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Post by Rate This » Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:29 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:35 pm
I'm a bit surprised one (obscure) person's foolish comments have attracted so much attention from the mainstream media.
Whatever they think will rile people up and get them craving more information about it. It’s a game.

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Post by Mega Hertz » Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:30 pm

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