Not allowed to carry at MSU

[TC Talks]

We are up to 69 mass shootings for 2023 and NONE were stopped by an armed civilian.

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If an armed civilian stopped a mass shooting in progress, it wouldn't count as a mass shooting now would it? The El Paso incident as well as the mall in Indiana were stopped before they could reach said mass shooting status.

I am also circumspect of the number you cite. Reference?

Prove that anyone has defending a mass shooting since January 1. There isn't anyone.

As for shootings: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting

[Deleted User 9015]

there are literally dozens of CCW holders who have committed mass shootings,

I don't believe this to be true. CCW (CPL in the State of Michigan) holders have proven out to be more law abiding than law enforcement.

“Among police, firearms violations occur at a rate of 16.5 per 100,000 officers. Among permit holders in Florida and Texas, the rate is only 2.4 per 100,000.10 That is just 1/7th of the rate for police officers. But there’s no need to focus on Texas and Florida — the data are similar in other states.”
Crime Prevention Research Center

So CCW holders and law enforcement officers are in situations where a firearm may be drawn with the same frequency. I learn something new every day from conservatives.

Do you have a source citing the "literal dozens?"

Yes!

https://archive.ph/BVSkn

[Bryce]

So CCW holders and law enforcement officers are in situations where a firearm may be drawn with the same frequency. I learn something new every day from conservatives.

Don't be an ignorant fuck. That's no way to go through life.

Do you have a source citing the "literal dozens?"

Yes!

https://archive.ph/BVSkn
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30 incidents going back to 2008. That is statistically insignificant.

[bmw]

And only 1 incident since 2020, so defining a mass shooting as 3 or more dead, there have been 33 mass shootings since 2020, 1 killer of whom had a CCW. That's 1 in 33. So the other 32 out of 33 didn't have a permit.

And in the church example I posted earlier in this thread - that wasn't a mass shooting, but it certainly would have ended up as one had nobody else in the church been armed. There would have been countless sitting ducks.

[Mega Hertz]

There's a 1 in 34 chance I'm gonna go in my fridge and get a can of peach Red Bull.

[Deleted User 9015]

So CCW holders and law enforcement officers are in situations where a firearm may be drawn with the same frequency. I learn something new every day from conservatives.

Don't be an ignorant fuck. That's no way to go through life.

Do you have a source citing the "literal dozens?"

Yes!

https://archive.ph/BVSkn

30 incidents going back to 2008. That is statistically insignificant.
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lol "that's not true! show me a citation!" *sees citation* "that's insignificant!!"

I think I'm done here for now.

[Mega Hertz]

So CCW holders and law enforcement officers are in situations where a firearm may be drawn with the same frequency. I learn something new every day from conservatives.

Don't be an ignorant fuck. That's no way to go through life.

Do you have a source citing the "literal dozens?"

Yes!

https://archive.ph/BVSkn

30 incidents going back to 2008. That is statistically insignificant.

lol "that's not true! show me a citation!" *sees citation* "that's insignificant!!"

I think I'm done here for now.
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Now apply that statistic to "voter fraud" and watch his head explode like Scanners.

[Bryce]

So CCW holders and law enforcement officers are in situations where a firearm may be drawn with the same frequency. I learn something new every day from conservatives.

Don't be an ignorant fuck. That's no way to go through life.

Do you have a source citing the "literal dozens?"

Yes!

https://archive.ph/BVSkn

30 incidents going back to 2008. That is statistically insignificant.

lol "that's not true! show me a citation!" *sees citation* "that's insignificant!!"

I think I'm done here for now.
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Well, it is. Your claim that there have been dozens of mass shooting by permit holders doesn't explain that it spanned a total of 15 years. And, only ONE in the past three. Add to that the point that many listed were domestic incidents and not done out in the general public, you numbers are insignificant.

[paul8539]

If you can't carry guns, then carry something that you can, such as Bowie knives, mace, pepper spray, sand to throw in eyes, water guns, bear spray, or some such thing. Throw your coffee cup at him; or are beverages not allowed in classrooms?