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Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

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Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by SixPlusOne » Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:03 pm

Courtesy: NewsMax

Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs


https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ford- ... d/1151834/



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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:24 pm

However, data collected from vehicles showed fewer than 5% of customers were tuning in to AM radio.
That sentence sums up the (lack of) relevance of AM radio beautifully.
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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by Round Six » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:32 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:24 pm
However, data collected from vehicles showed fewer than 5% of customers were tuning in to AM radio.
That sentence sums up the (lack of) relevance of AM radio beautifully.
I wonder if this is a regional thing? Folks in sparsely populated areas are more likely to receive an AM signal. Or AM stations are more likely to carry the daily US farm report. That sort of thing.
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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by TC Talks » Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:33 pm

Round Six wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:32 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:24 pm
However, data collected from vehicles showed fewer than 5% of customers were tuning in to AM radio.
That sentence sums up the (lack of) relevance of AM radio beautifully.
I wonder if this is a regional thing? Folks in sparsely populated areas are more likely to receive an AM signal. Or AM stations are more likely to carry the daily US farm report. That sort of thing.
Farm reports are on FM and via apps these days. The 5% are likely older than 70.
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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by Deleted User 16173 » Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:45 pm

Ford's AM radio receivers are terrible. Way to much computer noise. I'm not sure if it has to do with the antenna design or if it has to do with the car and computer setup itself.

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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by TC Talks » Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:27 pm

Mark Nelson wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:45 pm
Ford's AM radio receivers are terrible. Way to much computer noise. I'm not sure if it has to do with the antenna design or if it has to do with the car and computer setup itself.
or, who the fuck cares, it's AM. Ford has outsourced audio for 5 years now.
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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by RedfordRob » Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm

AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.

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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by Deleted User 16173 » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am

RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.

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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by Art Van Damme » Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:00 am

Mark Nelson wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am
RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.
Oh gawd, here we go again with the ‘doomsday’ discussion.🙄
No, AM radio is not solely important…RADIO is important. AM, FM, SW, pick a band. Doesn’t matter, all of them do the job of sending information from a single point to many points at one time. RADIO can play a vital role in disseminating information in times of crises. So can print media, community sirens and PA systems.

The issue really is, is that if, God forbid, there a catastrophic crises that disables internet and cellphones, chances are radio and tv will be disabled, too. What then?

Your statement (and most doomsday communication discussions) never acknowledges that in the time since cell phones were introduced, the infrastructure needed to make the cell phone systems reliable has been constantly worked on and improved. Same can be said about the internet.

This “one day AM radio will save the day just you wait and see” discussion is pure nostalgia. AM (in the US anyhow) will continue down the path of (micro) niche broadcasting, until the economics of AM radio broadcasting don’t make sense.

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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by Graham Wellington » Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:45 am

Mark Nelson wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am
RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.
If that scenario plays out, do enough people actually have a radio to listen to? And couldn't FM just as easily disseminate information?

Radio stations rely just as much on internet as everyone else. If internet goes out, they are dead as well.

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Post by Deleted User 16173 » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:03 am

Graham Wellington wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:45 am
Mark Nelson wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am
RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.
If that scenario plays out, do enough people actually have a radio to listen to? And couldn't FM just as easily disseminate information?

Radio stations rely just as much on internet as everyone else. If internet goes out, they are dead as well.
Not necessarily, a few stations have auxiliary transmission and backup generators to transmit emergency information. It is possible that FM would also be available for the same purposes. The thing with AM though is the fact that if your area is without power, you could get emergency information from distant stations. This is why it is important that auto manufacturers must keep AM radio in vehicles.

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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by RedfordRob » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:08 am

Art Van Damme wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:00 am
Mark Nelson wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am
RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.
Oh gawd, here we go again with the ‘doomsday’ discussion.🙄
No, AM radio is not solely important…RADIO is important. AM, FM, SW, pick a band. Doesn’t matter, all of them do the job of sending information from a single point to many points at one time. RADIO can play a vital role in disseminating information in times of crises. So can print media, community sirens and PA systems.

The issue really is, is that if, God forbid, there a catastrophic crises that disables internet and cellphones, chances are radio and tv will be disabled, too. What then?

Your statement (and most doomsday communication discussions) never acknowledges that in the time since cell phones were introduced, the infrastructure needed to make the cell phone systems reliable has been constantly worked on and improved. Same can be said about the internet.

This “one day AM radio will save the day just you wait and see” discussion is pure nostalgia. AM (in the US anyhow) will continue down the path of (micro) niche broadcasting, until the economics of AM radio broadcasting don’t make sense.
The Amateur Radio Emergency Service proves your argument wrong.

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Post by Deleted User 16173 » Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:41 pm

RedfordRob wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:08 am
Art Van Damme wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:00 am
Mark Nelson wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am
RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.
Oh gawd, here we go again with the ‘doomsday’ discussion.🙄
No, AM radio is not solely important…RADIO is important. AM, FM, SW, pick a band. Doesn’t matter, all of them do the job of sending information from a single point to many points at one time. RADIO can play a vital role in disseminating information in times of crises. So can print media, community sirens and PA systems.

The issue really is, is that if, God forbid, there a catastrophic crises that disables internet and cellphones, chances are radio and tv will be disabled, too. What then?

Your statement (and most doomsday communication discussions) never acknowledges that in the time since cell phones were introduced, the infrastructure needed to make the cell phone systems reliable has been constantly worked on and improved. Same can be said about the internet.

This “one day AM radio will save the day just you wait and see” discussion is pure nostalgia. AM (in the US anyhow) will continue down the path of (micro) niche broadcasting, until the economics of AM radio broadcasting don’t make sense.
The Amateur Radio Emergency Service proves your argument wrong.
Again 💯 agree. Just 2 days ago, The FBI issued another warning about China hacking our power grids. Hopefully we can stop this form of terrorism before we have a terrible situation. The border crisis is not helping, any terrorist cell can just walk across the border.
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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by Art Van Damme » Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:50 pm

RedfordRob wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:08 am
Art Van Damme wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:00 am
Mark Nelson wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:49 am
RedfordRob wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:50 pm
AM is still needed, glad it's being kept in cars. I was listening to AM580 today while driving.
💯 agree. AM Radio is important for emergency situations. When the power grid fails for whatever reason like hacking by terrorist, EMP or failure just by the age of our power grid, AM Radio can play an important role for us to obtain information. There will be no internet or cellphone service whatsoever. Look for rolling blackouts and brownouts this year due to the current strain on the power grid today due to the weather and other factors.
Oh gawd, here we go again with the ‘doomsday’ discussion.🙄
No, AM radio is not solely important…RADIO is important. AM, FM, SW, pick a band. Doesn’t matter, all of them do the job of sending information from a single point to many points at one time. RADIO can play a vital role in disseminating information in times of crises. So can print media, community sirens and PA systems.

The issue really is, is that if, God forbid, there a catastrophic crises that disables internet and cellphones, chances are radio and tv will be disabled, too. What then?

Your statement (and most doomsday communication discussions) never acknowledges that in the time since cell phones were introduced, the infrastructure needed to make the cell phone systems reliable has been constantly worked on and improved. Same can be said about the internet.

This “one day AM radio will save the day just you wait and see” discussion is pure nostalgia. AM (in the US anyhow) will continue down the path of (micro) niche broadcasting, until the economics of AM radio broadcasting don’t make sense.
The Amateur Radio Emergency Service proves your argument wrong.
Refresh my memory. Does the ARES operate in the AM broadcast band? (530kHz-1710kHz)

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Re: Ford Offering Update to Keep AM Radio in EVs

Post by TC Talks » Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:14 pm

Graham Wellington wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:45 am
If that scenario plays out, do enough people actually have a radio to listen to? And couldn't FM just as easily disseminate information?
Good question, important question.
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