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Time to stop picking on Valenti

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Andy Sipowicz
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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Andy Sipowicz » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:31 am

Daypart wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:48 pm
Valenti is still 10x better than any other "talent" on that station, save for Stoney.
That's sort of like saying a double bypass is better than a triple bypass. I do quite a bit of traveling and I don't always listen to sports talk radio on the road but when I do, it's so much better than this crap in Detroit that it's unbelievable. They don't talk about their personal lives or their favorite teams or themselves over and over and over. If Valenti is so good, why is he still stuck in Detroit? The guy blows, plain and simple.

It's the same show virtually every time I listen. He's angry about something. Calling Tiger Woods "pathetic" was a joke. Yeah, Mikey. The guy is worth half-a-billion, has a smokingly hot girlfriend, lives on the ocean and will go down in history as one of the best golfers ever. He clearly has an issue but lets not give him any sympathy. Valenti is pathetic. Maybe he should make another joke about a dead Detroit Lion retaining water and not making weight after the guy tragically drowned.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Daypart » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:09 am

I agree. I still think his fill-in on WFAN last Christmas (2015) was an on-air audition that fell flat. You're right. He can't cut it anywhere else.

Present company excluded, I think the callers into 97.1 are some of the least-informed callers in the nation. The fact that they build the whole station on callers is a joke.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by craig11152 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:57 am

brianp48093 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:10 pm
I don't see MV as bitching, moaning or whining. He sounds frustrated and disgusted with Detroit sports.
Except he constantly reminds us he is NOT a Detroit fan. He is a Giants,Yankees, Celtics fan. Whens the last time you got frustrated and disgusted with some sports team you had no connection to?
I think Mike builds 90% of his show around negativity. Rather than say something nice about team A he will focus on the negatives about team B or C.
It isn't just the negatives either its the degree and relentlessness of it.
Finally, he switched to a bone saw to finish the job, and at 9:17 p.m., Mountain time, the head of the greatest hitter who ever lived had been sliced off.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Charlesjones » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:08 pm

To reply to Andy last couple posts ...with the Tiger Woods comment as pathetic... I am a Tiger Woods fan and feel this is tragic and sad but the images of seeing him in the jail cell and at the roadside stop plus considering his attempts to come back only a couple months ago I don't think pathetic is uncalled for... I believe it is a little harsh but I cannot blame him for using stronger terminology... Stephen A Smith did the same on ESPN.

In reply to Andy comment about Steve Nash earlier in reply to my comments about Steve Nash I read between the lines of Andy's post in which he admits that he could accept Steve Nash as being overrated but disagreed with him using the word garbage, whereas I see that as meaning you agree with his opinion but feel he went too far in describing it on the radio ,my only reply would be to quote the line from Casablanca... I'm shocked shocked to learn that somebody has dared use hyperbole in Drive Time radio

I don't think it is Mike's fault to use the occasional hyperbolic statement when trying to retain listeners in afternoon drive time it's what he is paid to do

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... And let's not go to the people...

Post by In The Bleachers » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:58 am

Daypart wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:09 am
... Present company excluded, I think the callers into 97.1 are some of the least-informed callers in the nation. The fact that they build the whole station on callers is a joke.
I agree with this.
And many times, those phoning in can often be painful to understand because it's a cell with poor quality audio and/or lackluster coverage. Callers on 97.1 are often a channel changer for me. Me personally, I'd like no callers at all. Very rarely imo does any caller bring something of value into the conversation.

I have a question for Andy, who has an opportunity to sample other markets. Are people calling in a big part of the show, as it is here?

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by craig11152 » Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:06 am

I don't care enough to bother but anybody who posts here can sample (most) other markets through internet streaming.
Finally, he switched to a bone saw to finish the job, and at 9:17 p.m., Mountain time, the head of the greatest hitter who ever lived had been sliced off.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Daypart » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:40 pm

Most stations are not as caller-driven as 97.1. The drawback to that is you tend to get regular callers who get on air over and over again on stations like 670 here in Chicago. Jim Rome has a good philosophy...taking a ton of callers is lazy radio. "Less of you, more of me" is his motto.

I have found Valenti relying more and more on discussions with Sully and Hatchet. They both are mealy mouthed and have annoying pitches to their voices. A little of them goes a long way.

Now, today, Valenti's show is a disaster. He has spent 40 minutes ranting about Wojo's column on MSU that had just posted online an hour prior to his show. Chances are, 90% of the audience hadn't read it. Obviously, he's defending MSU and he is pre-emptively telling the listeners to shut up and that "your program" (I assume Michigan) isn't a saint.

I have never been one to rip on Valenti because he's not a Detroit native. However, today, he said something that rubbed me the wrong way. Segueing into a read for a realtor, he mentioned how he might have to look to sell his home because he "can't stand this city anymore." That's all fine and good. LOts of people don't like Detroit. But don't act like you're gracing the listeners with your presence and that Detroit is beneath you. Obviously, it's not since your WFAN on-air audition flopped.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by radiofan » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:18 pm

I flipped to Valenti today when a commercial came on to the station I was listening to, just in time to hear Valenti say "I get paid whether you listen to me or not. I don't care, change the station". I agreed with him for once, changed the station and never went back.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by D.j.m. » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:12 am

Daypart wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:40 pm
Most stations are not as caller-driven as 97.1. The drawback to that is you tend to get regular callers who get on air over and over again on stations like 670 here in Chicago. Jim Rome has a good philosophy...taking a ton of callers is lazy radio. "Less of you, more of me" is his motto.

I have found Valenti relying more and more on discussions with Sully and Hatchet. They both are mealy mouthed and have annoying pitches to their voices. A little of them goes a long way.

Now, today, Valenti's show is a disaster. He has spent 40 minutes ranting about Wojo's column on MSU that had just posted online an hour prior to his show. Chances are, 90% of the audience hadn't read it. Obviously, he's defending MSU and he is pre-emptively telling the listeners to shut up and that "your program" (I assume Michigan) isn't a saint.

I have never been one to rip on Valenti because he's not a Detroit native. However, today, he said something that rubbed me the wrong way. Segueing into a read for a realtor, he mentioned how he might have to look to sell his home because he "can't stand this city anymore." That's all fine and good. LOts of people don't like Detroit. But don't act like you're gracing the listeners with your presence and that Detroit is beneath you. Obviously, it's not since your WFAN on-air audition flopped.
But spitting on Detroit has been Mike Valenti's shtick since he came to the market, and the people that listen to him and call him hate Detroit and their teams even more than they hate Valenti himself, so it works. He has every right to coast on his new contract and spit in his audience's faces. He's getting away with it. Plus, since 97.1 is so caller-driven, he knows he doesn't have to put in much effort into actual sports talk radio.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Andy Sipowicz » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:06 pm

radiofan wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:18 pm
I flipped to Valenti today when a commercial came on to the station I was listening to, just in time to hear Valenti say "I get paid whether you listen to me or not. I don't care, change the station". I agreed with him for once, changed the station and never went back.
Great idea, tell people to leave your place of business. He's a moron. I hardly listen to that station at all anymore and if I do, not for more than a few minutes. It's just awful. I like Wojo but can only take so much of his clown act.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Daypart » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:29 am

They need to get him a co-host. Having his yes-men chime in (Sully and Hatchet) is painful. Hatchet is trying (very obviously) to be Foster, but he's coming across as moronic. Sullivan does not have the intelligence nor the voice to be a host or even be on the air.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by craig11152 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:47 am

As I have said before I rarely listen at all except during football season. Once or twice I have tuned in during my 6 minute drive to the dog park. I don't know if I'm imagining it but it almost seems since Terry left Valenti isn't as big an asshole as he used to be. I haven't listened enough to be sure or not. My total listening doesn't add up to 5 minutes a week for that show.
Finally, he switched to a bone saw to finish the job, and at 9:17 p.m., Mountain time, the head of the greatest hitter who ever lived had been sliced off.

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Re: Time to stop picking on Valenti

Post by Cilliandrew » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:36 am

Daypart wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:29 am
They need to get him a co-host. Having his yes-men chime in (Sully and Hatchet) is painful. Hatchet is trying (very obviously) to be Foster, but he's coming across as moronic. Sullivan does not have the intelligence nor the voice to be a host or even be on the air.
I agree with this. Mike's personality is too strong and he just bulldozes anyone else currently on the mic. He needs a co-host who can provide a strong counterpoint.

Right now they all just sit around and have a good laugh about the latest song put together by Roberto.

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