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Hey WRIF: your audio chain sounds like HORSESHIT!!!

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Re: Hey WRIF: your audio chain sounds like HORSESHIT!!!

Post by audiophile » Sat May 27, 2017 1:39 pm

Trying to be loud with rock music just makes it sound like mush. The rock music is already loud, you don't want to use much multiband processing...
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Re: Hey WRIF: your audio chain sounds like HORSESHIT!!!

Post by Colonel Flagg » Sat May 27, 2017 2:39 pm

audiophile wrote:
Sat May 27, 2017 1:39 pm
Trying to be loud with rock music just makes it sound like mush. The rock music is already loud, you don't want to use much multiband processing...
That's only true if you don't know what you're doing. Ridiculous statements like that are precisely why the audio processing was secured in the racks, behind smoked glass, with a lock on it, at most of the stations where I worked. Go into any station where Gary Bezerkowitz or Guy Zapoleon is consulting. I can guarantee, you won't have a nervous, sweaty palm engineer touching the audio chain.
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Re: Hey WRIF: your audio chain sounds like HORSESHIT!!!

Post by audiophile » Sat May 27, 2017 5:44 pm

I might not have explained it in detail, but I can assure you I know what I'm doing...

I referring to multi-band drive, and using fast attack and release within those bands. Less drive and slower attack and release will add punch.

Everyone is complaining about the lack of punch here, so we're talking trade-offs, between punch and loudness. You can't have both - you have to give up some loudness to achieve punch.

A user's volume control can fix loudness, but once the audio is made lifeless, just to be loud, no one can fix that...
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Re: Hey WRIF: your audio chain sounds like HORSESHIT!!!

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat May 27, 2017 10:11 pm

I agree - they need to decrease the loudness a bit to increase punch.

Another big issue with WRIF's chain I haven't even mentioned yet - PITCH.

The pitch they are using is too aggressive; the music is too fast. I suspect this, too, affects overall sound quality. The pitch was noticeably less aggressive 7 - 10 days ago.

Overall, their chain sounds dreadful again. Their dopey PD probably tinkered with the settings after their engineer fixed everything.
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