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MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

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Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by WOHO » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:35 pm

Ye olde analog FM radios you were all set, the PLL on many radios should be able to try and compensate for the 50KHz off of dead center. Do the Franken FM stations transmit a 19KHz Pilot Tone and lop-off audio at 15KHz?

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Re: RE: Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by RingtailedFox » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:59 am

bmw wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:32 am
Inundated wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:34 am
Disadvantages: As noted, the actual audio signal is 87.75. On a digital radio that can tune to the exact frequency, a lot of "hash" heard at 87.7(0) goes away. And some radios can't even get the station. 
I wonder how much a station could get away with tweaking that audio frequency......down to say 87.74 or 87.73? How sensitive are analog tv sets to the center frequency of the audio carrier?
If i remember correctly, analog TV stations can have a plus or minus offset of 10 Khz (0.01 MHz) to protect adjacent channels in neighbouring markets, so modifying to 87.74 or 87.76 shouldn't be much of a big deal.
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Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:35 pm
Ye olde analog FM radios you were all set, the PLL on many radios should be able to try and compensate for the 50KHz off of dead center. Do the Franken FM stations transmit a 19KHz Pilot Tone and lop-off audio at 15KHz?
FM radio has a 75 KHz maximum frequency deviation, compared to NTSC (analog TV)'s 25 KHz maximum frequency deviation. It'll still be picked up by an FM reciever that can tune down to 87.7(5), but it'll sound much softer than FM radio.
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Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by Radio Sucks » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:48 am

Keep in mind, oh children of the audio gods, the ratings racked up by MeTVFM came from PPM, so whatever freq they are on that famous "inaudible signal" is being received!!!

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Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by Inundated » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:37 am

The non-live stream "MeTV Music" is now on the MeTV Android app (and presumably the iOS app as well).

As with the web stream, this is NOT a WRME-LP (or any "MeTV FM" affiliate, if there are any yet) simulcast.

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Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:30 pm

The station is performing remarkably well given the impediments it faces!

The folks at Weigel deserve a ton of credit for their vision!!! I think a lot of folks who listened to 94.7 during its "True Oldies" days now listen to 87.7.

This is not the first format at that frequency to earn good ratings, btw.

Q87.7 WKQX-LP also earned very respectable numbers with a Modern Rock format - but that station had a TON of musical ground all to itself. MeTV FM is up against 3 or 4 in-market classic hits stations (94.7, 95.9 from Aurora and 104.3 immediately come to mind) yet still is posting impressive numbers.
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Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by WOHO » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:45 am

Still can't get MeTV FM added to the Internet Radios server links on Reciva or Tune-In, so no dice unless someone has a back door non-flash link?

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Re: RE: Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by Inundated » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:37 am

WOHO wrote:Still can't get MeTV FM added to the Internet Radios server links on Reciva or Tune-In, so no dice unless someone has a back door non-flash link?
That is likely because the MeTV Music stream isn't really a "live" stream per se. It is more of a server pushing out songs one after the other. You notice that going in, when the first song always starts at the beginning.

Meanwhile, there is no regular WRME-LP stream.


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Re: MeTV FM and Oldies Type Formats

Post by Inundated » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:44 am

I believe that the first successful radio format on 87.7/LPTV 6 in Chicago was smooth jazz WLFM-LP, which picked up right where Clear Channel's WNUA left off.

Of course, the 87.7/6 here in Cleveland, former sister station under Venture, carries the WLFM-LP calls today. It is Spanish "La Mega" after starting as an alt rocker...

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